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#1
12-22-2005, 11:34 AM
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I call? (2/5 NL)
Very loose passive game at the Harrahs in Omaha. Lots of limping and cc'ing of raises. Things get alot more aggressive post-flop. 2 people limp UTGish, MP raises to 15, and 2 people call, and its to me on the button. I call with KdJd. Everyone that had limped + a blind calls, and away we go.
Flop is 7d8x9d. About as good as I could hope for. Then things go very wrong. PFR bets 50. Folded to me on the button. I notice the BB stacking out $50. I'm a donk, so I call. Then things get worse. BB raises, puts the $50 out, and pushes out a raise of $200. Bummer. PRF doesnt take long to shove his last $200 into the pot, and its back to me. I am devoid of reads on the BB. He's new, and I'm new. The PFR is a smug nit who has been needling me because I was carrying around a HoHII book to read while I was waiting to get into the game. However I have not seen him get out of line. I have to think he either has AA, KK, or JT. I'm getting good enough odds for my call, if my flush is good. Call? Sidenote, BB who make the raise $200 more still has $200 behind. I have $220 behind. I felt lost here. Advice please? Hand 2: I've been at the table for about 2 hours now, and have shown down some monsters. I've also lost with a few big hands. I have 1k+, and villian in this hand is the only person at the table with over $300. He has $525 or so. I raise from the button with AQs to 20. Villian reraises me to 55, and I call. This had happened twice before from his BB, and both times I folded. Flop was AQ9r. He bets out $50. I raise to $200. He waits for about 2 minutes, and pushes... Hero? Nick 
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#2
12-22-2005, 12:02 PM
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Re: I call? (2/5 NL)
The most i have played is $100NL. That being as it may , my less schooled opinion is as follows:
1. referring to the Fundamental Theory of Poker, you call. 2. it's the 2 minute pause that convinces me he has trips and has reviewed your play so far at table, and figured you to not have AA. I put him on QQ. He's not pushing with A,9 and that's all you beat here. Fold.
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#4
12-22-2005, 05:46 PM
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Re: I call? (2/5 NL)
For me hand 2 is usually a clear fold. I can't think of a hand that waits 2 full minutes then moves allin other than a set. The underbet on the flop then allin after a raise--that's not AK or AJ. Well if he does have that strong of a hand live you should be able to pick that up anyway...
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#5
12-22-2005, 07:19 PM
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Re: I call? (2/5 NL)
call IMMEDIATELY in both hands
gl
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#7
12-22-2005, 07:55 PM
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Re: I call? (2/5 NL)
Some quick results:
Hand 1: I called. Turn was the very sexy Ad. Me and the BB got the rest of our money in. BB had 8d5d. PFR had JT, and spent the next 15 minutes berating me. I didnt mind. Hand 2: I called. BB had 99. Whoops. Turn J, River A. Oooooooo.
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#9
12-22-2005, 01:45 PM
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Re: I call? (2/5 NL)
[ QUOTE ]
The most i have played is $100NL. That being as it may , my less schooled opinion is as follows: 1. referring to the Fundamental Theory of Poker, you call. 2. it's the 2 minute pause that convinces me he has trips and has reviewed your play so far at table, and figured you to not have AA. I put him on QQ. He's not pushing with A,9 and that's all you beat here. Fold. [/ QUOTE ] question, what is the fundamental theorem of poker also no. 2 is easy call...
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#10
12-22-2005, 11:36 PM
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Re: I call? (2/5 NL)
1. referring to the Fundamental Theory of Poker, you call. 2. it's the 2 minute pause that convinces me he has trips and has reviewed your play so far at table, and figured you to not have AA. I put him on QQ. He's not pushing with A,9 and that's all you beat here. Fold. [/ QUOTE ] question, what is the fundamental theorem of poker Sklansky in this book "The Theory of Poker" on page 17 states: Everytime you play a hand differently from the way you would have played it if you could see all your opponents cards, THEY gain, and everytime you play your hand the same way you would have played it if you could see all their cards, THEY lose. " a paragraph later he goes on to state "Sometimes the amount of money in the pot makes it correct to call , even if you could see that your opponent has a better hand than you. " In the case of hand #1, pot odds dictated a call, even though he was probabily behind because pot odds were greater than his odds of losing. Sklansky elaborates in his book that when the odds are with you, you call. Thus my comment on hand #1. p.s that is how he played it, and it did work out. (so there...lol)
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