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Old 09-23-2005, 02:42 PM
UCF THAYER UCF THAYER is offline
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Default KK w/ AAA flop

5/10 nl, both stacks around 1000
Hero is dealt KK on the button.
Villain raises to 45, Hero reraises to 120, Villain calls.
FLOP AAA
Villain Checks, Hero Bets 150, Villain Calls
TURN AAA3
Villain Checks, Hero Checks
RIVER AAA33
Villain Checks, Hero Bets 200, Villain Raises all in to ~800
Hero?
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Old 09-23-2005, 02:44 PM
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Default Re: KK w/ AAA flop

easy call
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Old 09-23-2005, 02:53 PM
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Call. His pre-flop play said he has a PP. He reads you for not having the ace, so he thinks his pair is good.
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Old 09-23-2005, 03:00 PM
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Default Re: KK w/ AAA flop

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5/10 nl, both stacks around 1000
Hero is dealt KK on the button.
Villain raises to 45, Hero reraises to 120, Villain calls.
FLOP AAA
Villain Checks, Hero Bets 150, Villain Calls
TURN AAA3
Villain Checks, Hero Checks
RIVER AAA33
Villain Checks, Hero Bets 200, Villain Raises all in to ~800
Hero?

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Given the pre-flop action, just wondering what hand(s) you were hoping would call your "value" bet on the river?
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Old 09-23-2005, 03:10 PM
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Default Re: KK w/ AAA flop

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5/10 nl, both stacks around 1000
Hero is dealt KK on the button.
Villain raises to 45, Hero reraises to 120, Villain calls.
FLOP AAA
Villain Checks, Hero Bets 150, Villain Calls
TURN AAA3
Villain Checks, Hero Checks
RIVER AAA33
Villain Checks, Hero Bets 200, Villain Raises all in to ~800
Hero?

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Given the pre-flop action, just wondering what hand(s) you were hoping would call your "value" bet on the river?

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QQ, maybe JJ
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Old 09-23-2005, 03:11 PM
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Default Re: KK w/ AAA flop

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5/10 nl, both stacks around 1000
Hero is dealt KK on the button.
Villain raises to 45, Hero reraises to 120, Villain calls.
FLOP AAA
Villain Checks, Hero Bets 150, Villain Calls
TURN AAA3
Villain Checks, Hero Checks
RIVER AAA33
Villain Checks, Hero Bets 200, Villain Raises all in to ~800
Hero?

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Given the pre-flop action, just wondering what hand(s) you were hoping would call your "value" bet on the river?

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QQ, maybe JJ

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...or KQ or KJ (giving the assumption worse hands don't call flop)....or any pair
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Old 09-23-2005, 05:46 PM
Richie Rich Richie Rich is offline
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...or KQ or KJ (giving the assumption worse hands don't call flop)....or any pair

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Huh? Maybe I'm missing something, but hero didn't give any details on his image or how loose/tight villain was playing. So it would be fair to assume that both players were "reasonable".

If so, what kind of hands would a reasonable player re-raise to 120 (after another reasonable player's raise to 45) btf? Most likely hands are AA/KK/QQ/AK.

JJ and TT are are also possible, since most non-LAG players will re-raise those hands in more unusual circumstances, like trying to isolate a known LAG to go heads-up. But we aren't given that fact, in this case.

Do you really think hero could've made a pf raise with KQ/KJ/any pair often enough to justify a call from villain? C'mon...
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Old 09-23-2005, 06:38 PM
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Default Re: KK w/ AAA flop

Given that villian checked the river after the turn got checked through, i think this is a call.
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Old 09-23-2005, 07:57 PM
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If so, what kind of hands would a reasonable player re-raise to 120 (after another reasonable player's raise to 45) btf? Most likely hands are AA/KK/QQ/AK.


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I still dontknow if this was 10 or 9 handed or 5 or 6 handed, which does change the complexion of the hand, but I'm a reasonable player (by no means a maniac) and my reraising range is a great deal wider. To think otherwise just because someone appears "reasonable" is faulty thinking.
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Old 09-23-2005, 03:15 PM
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Default Re: KK w/ AAA flop

i would frown violently, then fold.
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