Two Plus Two Older Archives  

Go Back   Two Plus Two Older Archives > Limit Texas Hold'em > Small Stakes Hold'em
FAQ Community Calendar Today's Posts Search

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 12-24-2005, 01:07 AM
Scotch78 Scotch78 is offline
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2004
Posts: 1
Default Stealing with AA

No stats on villain and only one table read. I opened and got one cold-caller, then he 3-bet from the blinds with KK and everyone called. Flop comes AAx and he gets two callers. He checks and overccalls the turn (blank) and river (jack).

PokerStars 3/6 Hold'em (8 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx

Preflop: Hero is Button with A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">5 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, BB calls.

Flop: (4.33 SB) 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">BB raises</font>, Hero calls.

Turn: (4.16 BB) J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">BB raises</font>, Hero folds.

Final Pot: 7.16 BB

Scott
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 12-24-2005, 01:14 AM
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Default Re: Stealing with AA

Ugh, getting double check raised always sucks.

The flop isnt very dangerous. He could CR with any piece of the board or diamonds. A little FPS on the flop, this is an easy 3 bet.

Turn presents different problems. I am more inclined to check the turn and call or raise a river blank. Betting the turn after getting CR'd when the top card pairs is always trouble. Since you cant call down against another CR. BB is probably very certain you dont have a jack when you didnt give more action on the flop.

Nice laydown anyways.
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 12-24-2005, 01:45 AM
Scotch78 Scotch78 is offline
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2004
Posts: 1
Default Re: Stealing with AA

[ QUOTE ]
A little FPS on the flop, this is an easy 3 bet.

[/ QUOTE ]

How do you figure? In a situation like this I wait to pop the turn almost every time.

Scott
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 12-24-2005, 06:43 AM
ackid ackid is offline
Member
 
Join Date: May 2005
Location: Heads up, at the Trop..
Posts: 87
Default Re: Stealing with AA

Good fold.
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 12-24-2005, 04:33 PM
silkyslim silkyslim is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Illinois
Posts: 359
Default Re: Stealing with AA

why not just 3 bet the flop? also, i wouldnt fold in a steal situatio with thisschmuck, call down.
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 12-24-2005, 05:24 PM
chief444 chief444 is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2004
Posts: 211
Default Re: Stealing with AA

The flop call planning to raise the turn is fine. But I think you're good more than 25% after the turn c/r. I think this is a pretty bad fold.
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 12-24-2005, 09:39 PM
Akimka Akimka is offline
Member
 
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Russia
Posts: 72
Default Re: Stealing with AA

I think whole line is great (to wait to a turn for a raise) but fold is bad IMO. I don't think he can c/r J here - if he will got his J he naturally will try to not give you free cards. I think this c/r not clearly displays that you behind. But without reads I think there too little to discuss about...
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 12-25-2005, 02:31 AM
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Default Re: Stealing with AA

I 3 bet this flop.

It may be worthwhile to give thought to the fact that the BB may have a jack, sees this an obvious oppurtunity to C/r you and takes advantage of it on the flop. This is why I 3-bet this flop. Say he caps it, and then leads the turn when another J hits, you can probably fold knowing your beat to either a FH or 3 J's.

However, the way the hand played out, Im not sure what I would do. Im thinking call down.
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 12-25-2005, 03:04 AM
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Default Re: Stealing with AA

I'd say that with no read on the guy it is a good fold.

However, depending on the guy it also looks a lot like the guy has a pocket pair and is not afraid of the jack.

Without some good info though, this fold is pretty automatic.
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 12-25-2005, 04:18 AM
private joker private joker is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Los Angeles
Posts: 1,943
Default Re: Stealing with AA

I like the line of calling the flop and raising the turn. However, the top card pairing is the worst thing for an overcard to see.

I'm checking this turn and betting the river if checked to, calling if bet into. It's WA/WB, and in HU situations like this, playing cautiously is fine.
Reply With Quote
Reply


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 03:25 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions Inc.