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Old 08-05-2005, 03:17 PM
nate_king1 nate_king1 is offline
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Default Bad Play with Pocket 10s?

Hand Histories..

7 Players, 50/100 Blinds

Hero 1100
Villian 1800
Villain2 1400


Villain Min-Raises UTG to 200
Villain2 in Small-Blind Calls
Hero Plushes (10-10)
Villian to call (900)
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Old 08-05-2005, 03:24 PM
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Default Re: Bad Play with Pocket 10s?

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Old 08-05-2005, 03:26 PM
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Default Re: Bad Play with Pocket 10s?

the post is lacking some important information.

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/sh...mp;o=&vc=1
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Old 08-05-2005, 03:28 PM
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Default Re: Bad Play with Pocket 10s?

I play it the same way, your only behind to 4 hands, and its 3 handed. Add in the fact that both could fold and I think its a good push.
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Old 08-05-2005, 03:28 PM
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the post is lacking some important information.

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/sh...mp;o=&vc=1

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OMG not everybody has PokerTracker. Just make the best of it. Standard 11 player.
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Old 08-05-2005, 03:29 PM
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Default Re: Bad Play with Pocket 10s?

Did his min-raise come from EP or LP? I don't think most players have any idea about the value of position but I tend to give LP raises far less credit at lower limits than EP raises. If this min-raise came from the CO or button than without a good read I think not pushing is moronic. Of course there are many players who min-bet with AA/KK in an attempt to feign weakness, build a big pot, and de-stack somebody who re-raises them.

Anyways, generally speaking, and more true of the 11's is this, in the long run pushing over the top of min-bets from your average player in LP with TT from is going to be +EV. So without a read telling you otherwise this is completely standard.
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Old 08-05-2005, 03:29 PM
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I play it the same way, your only behind to 4 hands, and its 3 handed. Add in the fact that both could fold and I think its a good push.

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Yep I have been playing tight all tourney long. So I just want them to lay it down. So I can increase my stack 50%.
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Old 08-05-2005, 03:34 PM
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Default Re: Bad Play with Pocket 10s?

Need a lot more information then this ... a lot more. What kind of hands does this player min-raise with? Given no reads or anything, Ill push.

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OMG not everybody has PokerTracker. Just make the best of it. Standard 11 player

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You dont need Poker Tracker to answer many of these questions. Just giving stack sizes and the blinds doesnt help much.
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Old 08-05-2005, 03:46 PM
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Need a lot more information then this ... a lot more. What kind of hands does this player min-raise with? Given no reads or anything, Ill push.

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OMG not everybody has PokerTracker. Just make the best of it. Standard 11 player

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You dont need Poker Tracker to answer many of these questions. Just giving stack sizes and the blinds doesnt help much.

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reads are nice, but many of my posts don't have them. however, all of my posts have stack sizes. if you don't know them, make them up so we're all talking about the same situation.
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Old 08-05-2005, 03:48 PM
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