Turn play with 2nd pair

acez29 · #1 06-08-2005, 10:47 PM

UTG+1 is 50/6 agg of .5.
CO is 18/12 agg of .7.

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Preflop: Hero is SB with T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
1 fold, UTG+1 calls, 4 folds, CO raises, 1 fold, Hero 3-bets, 1 fold, UTG+1 calls, CO calls.

Flop: (10 SB) 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (3 players)
Hero bets, UTG+1 calls, CO calls.

Turn: (6.50 BB) 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (3 players)
Hero bets, UTG+1 calls, CO calls.

River: (9.50 BB) 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (3 players)
Hero checks, UTG+1 bets, CO calls, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 12.50 BB

Ways to play the turn? Should I even bother calling the river?

brettbrettr · #2 06-08-2005, 10:54 PM

I think I like it, although I think there's a good chance you're beat. With CO's #'s--he could easily be raising a smaller PP than yours. OTOH, he could easily have you beat and and never raise.

At first I thought overcalling was a mistake, but if CO knows that the fishy UTG will take a shot on this river---yes, even the most passive fish will take a shot here--he's overcall with less than a Q. That said, I think this is really, really close. I might be adding up too many variables and conditions to try and justify the call.

Redeye · #3 06-08-2005, 10:57 PM

With those stats can't we fold to CO's overcall? I think I play it the same but fold the river.

brettbrettr · #4 06-08-2005, 10:59 PM

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With those stats can't we fold to CO's overcall? I think I play it the same but fold the river.

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What in his stats indicates that he's overcalling with a better hand.

His PRF is 12. That's healthy and includes a lot of hands that Hero beats.

His AF is very low, but that doesn't mean he folds a lot. It means he just isn't aggressive.

His wins at showdown, which is missing, might help.

acez29 · #5 06-08-2005, 11:13 PM

I dont have too many hands on the CO, only 43.

VPIP 18%.
WSD 44%.
W$SD 25%.