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Old 12-03-2005, 06:50 PM
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Default KQs - Questionable every street

MP/CO/button are very loose. I think button is tilting.
How do you play this?

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Preflop: Hero is UTG with Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
<font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, MP calls, CO calls, <font color="#CC3333">Button 3-bets</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, BB calls, Hero calls, MP calls, CO calls.

Flop: (15.40 SB) 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(5 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, MP calls, <font color="#CC3333">CO raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button 3-bets</font>, BB folds, Hero calls, MP calls, CO calls.

Turn: (13.70 BB) 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>

I bet, mp calls, co call, button raises, i three bet, everyone calls, button is allin.

River: (25.70 BB) 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>

I check, MP bets, co raises, i fold.
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Old 12-03-2005, 06:54 PM
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Default Re: KQs - Questionable every street

why bet the flop? why bet/3-bet the turn?
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Old 12-03-2005, 07:03 PM
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I bet the flop because i have top pair vs calling stations and a tilted button. I bet/three bet the turn because i have tp and a flush draw. Would you c/r the flop/turn, just call down?
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Old 12-03-2005, 07:13 PM
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I wouldn't lead the flop, but if I did, I would cap it
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Old 12-03-2005, 07:17 PM
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Leader,

Why wouldnt you lead the flop? Given how i played it, why would you cap? I'm really interested in this, because it seems both you and Miles play this differently which means i'm wondering if i'm playing this correctly.
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Old 12-03-2005, 07:33 PM
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Leader,

Why wouldnt you lead the flop? Given how i played it, why would you cap? I'm really interested in this, because it seems both you and Miles play this differently which means i'm wondering if i'm playing this correctly.

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I'm not sure if I agree with a cap myself, but this looks like a good spot to check with the intent of raising the pfr for protection and value.
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Old 12-03-2005, 07:39 PM
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Leader,

Why wouldnt you lead the flop? Given how i played it, why would you cap? I'm really interested in this, because it seems both you and Miles play this differently which means i'm wondering if i'm playing this correctly.

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I'm not sure there's a ton of difference between lead and CR since you have a tilting BT. I would definately cap though. A bad player on tilt could have anything. CO doesn't have you beat often here.
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Old 12-03-2005, 07:40 PM
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Redd,

My thinking must be way off because the only draws on this board are flush draws and if i check so i can check/raise they still have odds to call. If i bet, they call and PRF raises which is what i thought would happen, i get three bets in. I had planned on c/r the turn to a non heart, the diamond (IMO) means i want everyone in not out. Am i way off here?
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Old 12-03-2005, 07:46 PM
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I'm not sure there's a ton of difference between lead and CR since you have a tilting BT.

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You c/r to push out MP/CO. Granted this is close to a WA/WB type of flop but we're very multiway and the pot is very large so we're getting to the point where we'd like to get a lot of hands, even those drawing relatively slim, out.
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Old 12-03-2005, 07:56 PM
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Leader,

I think i agree with the cap in hindsight.

Damaniac,

Given the players whichs draws do i want out that are folding to a check-raise here?
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