20/40 hand. I don't know about this one.

rory · #1 12-20-2005, 02:33 PM

I check there sometimes too, not really on that sort of board though. I'd be more likely to check if it was more coordinated and if my check meant the turn card came out. On this board it is too likely I have the best hand to check.

I think it is bad to call with a small pocket pair in the small blind with a raise and one caller as well, for what it is worth.

Grisgra · #2 12-20-2005, 02:49 PM

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I think it is bad to call with a small pocket pair in the small blind with a raise and one caller as well, for what it is worth.

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Assuming the BB calls, you're putting in 1.5 small bets at a chance (after rake) of pulling in 6.5 small bets. Assuming you need 8:1 odds to win (flopped sets don't always take it), you don't think you make up three big bets postflop if you hit? I admit it's close, and if the BB 3-bets your odds go out the window. But it looks like the odds are there.

And yeah, yeah, super-dry board, I probably should have bet. Problem with 20/40 is it seems my UI aces are gettin' played back at a ton.

PS Next month, rory!

kiddo · #3 12-20-2005, 03:08 PM

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I think it is bad to call with a small pocket pair in the small blind with a raise and one caller as well, for what it is worth.

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I call with both pairs and Axs when raise is from a good guy in CO, coldcaller inst good and BB isnt LAG. Odds are ok and domination is not that big problem with Ax when CO stealraises and loose player coldcalls on button.

If I had a pocketpair in SB and it was 2nd pair I would often bet out on this dry flop. What will good player do with 1 overcard, which is most likely holding? Its very hard for him to convince himself Im bluffing. And if good player raises its because he is going for a freecard, or because he is hit by pair so if he bets turn I can fold and if he doesnt I can often bet river. We will probably get a call from one of the loose players, but its normally pretty ok and if it isnt, if they are hit or got a great draw somehow, well, they would have called whatever we do on flop.