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Old 08-24-2005, 02:23 AM
The Don The Don is offline
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How to handle a maniac?

DON'T FOLD SETS TO HIM

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Seriously...
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Old 08-24-2005, 02:57 AM
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A while later, I raise PF with 99 and he calls. 3- flop, something like AJ9, he goes all-in. He has me covered, so it's all my chips if I want to stick with my set. Based on the crazy plays he's been pulling, I strongly suspect he has a pair at best. (He did, however, later on pull the same maneuver on someone else and actually show down a flush.)

Do you call here because he's a maniac, or avoid him in case it's the time he really flopped a flush?

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Easiest call ever. I don't even care if he's been a maniac. Call very quickly.

If you never folded a set on a 3 flush flop, you'd be very close to correct (maybe some weird bubble scenario exception with a micro-stack out of the hand or whatever). But you can't give anybody (much less a maniac for chrissake!) credit for a flopped flush, especially in a heads-up pot. But my god man, you have re-draws anyway even if they did get lucky. But in this case, the chance that you're actually behind is like 0.1%.

Folding there is inexcusable. If you're going to fold sets to a maniac, you might as well fold everything pre-flop.
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Old 08-24-2005, 03:58 AM
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Default Re: How to handle a maniac?

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I found myself 3 seats to the right of an utter maniac. Or maybe he was an idiot



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he couldn't be too much of an idiot because he certainly got in your head.
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Old 08-24-2005, 11:25 AM
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Default Re: How to handle a maniac?

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Do you have a complete hand history for this? It's hard to evaluate a line without knowing blind sizes, button placement, how many people left, and stack sizes. I can only guess that you probably had the best hand on the flop.

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I don't have the complete HH, but IIRC it was 15-30 and the button was either mine or between us, because he acted first after the flop. Table was 9-handed, maybe.


So when you know you're either way way ahead or way way behind (redraws, sure, but all your chips on what could be 7 outs?) but don't know which, you call, eh? I figured since I had no idea which it was and we were only about 15 hands in, I didn't want to risk the whole thing on finding out. This thinking was wrong, of course, but who thinks right every time? [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]
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Old 08-24-2005, 11:37 AM
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Default Re: How to handle a maniac?

It's better than 7 outs because even if the turn doesn't help it will automatically add 3 more.
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Old 08-24-2005, 11:45 AM
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Are u the same guy that folded a set of 10's on the WSOP circuit event a few weeks ago! [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]
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Old 08-24-2005, 11:53 AM
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Default Re: How to handle a maniac?

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Folding that to someone who could have a pair there was incredibly dumb.

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nh.
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Old 08-24-2005, 11:56 AM
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I seriously cannot believe you folded a set of 9's on an A J 9 flop just because it was all diamonds! I can't see myself ever folding that.

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Old 08-24-2005, 03:08 PM
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Default Re: How to handle a maniac?

If it's the tightest player in the world I'd easily do it, but if it's a maniac I would have serious issues folding. Most players online like to slowplay their monster hands, why would someone force the issue here.
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Old 08-24-2005, 03:25 PM
sirpupnyc sirpupnyc is offline
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Yep, that was me. Is having 3 cards with the same number good or something?
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