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10-02-2005, 04:08 AM
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Two hands v a very good player? (SDM hands)
Here are two hands I played against a player who is doing well at the tables, so I'm assuming is a very good player, but I don't know.
This will be the last of my hand postings for a while, sorry. Appreciate your advice on them. Cheers. ----------------------------------------------------- HAND 1 7 Card Stud High ($2/$4), Ante $0.25, Bring-In $1 (hand converter) 3rd Street - (0.75 SB) Seat 1: xx xx K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]___folds Seat 2: xx xx 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]___folds Hero: 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]___brings-in___calls Seat 6: xx xx 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]___completes Seat 7: xx xx K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]___folds Seat 8: xx xx 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]___folds 4th Street - (2.75 SB) Hero: 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]___checks Seat 6: xx xx 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]___checks 5th Street - (1.38 BB) Hero: 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]___bets___calls Seat 6: xx xx 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]___raises 6th Street - (5.38 BB) Hero: 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]___checks___calls Seat 6: xx xx 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]___bets River - (7.38 BB) Hero: 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]___checks___calls Seat 6: xx xx 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] xx___bets Total pot: (9.38 BB) Results: Main Pot: $36 | Rake: $1.50 <font color="white"> Hero: [ 6d 8c 6h Qc Qh 8s 2h ] [ two pairs, queens and eights -- Qc,Qh,8c,8s,6d ] Seat 6: [ Ts 7s 6s Th 2s Tc 3c ] [ three of a kind, tens -- Ts,Th,Tc,7s,6s ]</font> HAND 2 7 Card Stud High ($2/$4), Ante $0.25, Bring-In $1 (hand converter) 3rd Street - (0.88 SB) Seat 1: xx xx 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]___brings-in___folds Seat 2: xx xx 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]___folds Seat 3: xx xx 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]___folds Hero: K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]___completes___calls Seat 6: xx xx 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]___raises Seat 7: xx xx 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]___folds Seat 8: xx xx 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]___folds 4th Street - (5.38 SB) Hero: K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]___calls Seat 6: xx xx 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]___bets 5th Street - (3.69 BB) Hero: K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]___bets___calls Seat 6: xx xx 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]___checks___raises 6th Street - (7.69 BB) Hero: K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]___checks___calls Seat 6: xx xx 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]___bets River - (9.69 BB) Hero: K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]___checks___calls Seat 6: xx xx 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] xx___bets Total pot: (11.69 BB) Results: Main Pot: $44.75 | Rake: $2 <font color="white"> Hero: [ Kh Kc 2s 3s 9d 9h 4c ] [ two pairs, kings and nines -- Kh,Kc,9d,9h,4c ] Seat 6: [ 8d Ad 8h As Ks 7h Jd ] [ two pairs, aces and eights -- Ad,As,Ks,8d,8h ]</font> 
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#2
10-02-2005, 04:14 AM
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Re: Two hands v a very good player? (SDM hands)
1st Hand: Reraise on fifth, its almost impossible for him to have you beat at this point. Check call the rest of the way.
2nd hand: I probably play the same, but will reraise third. THe rest of the hand is just kind of crappy. Maybe someone else can give some better advice on that one.
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#3
10-02-2005, 08:12 AM
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Re: Two hands v a very good player? (SDM hands)
Since I don't have the experience that many of you have, I ahve a question regading hand 1. Why isn't this a fold on 3rd Street after the complete bet?
you've got a pair of 6's with an 8 kicker and one of your 6's is already dead. Thanks
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#4
10-02-2005, 11:25 AM
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Re: Two hands v a very good player? (SDM hands)
On the first hand, third street is an easy, easy fold. Even for half a bet, it isn't worth playing a pair of Sixes with a Six gone. In this case in particular, you're up against a guy whom you perceive as being a good player who raised in early position. I don't see him doing this with 876, and with so many hearts gone, he can hardly have done this with a three-flush. Presumably, he has some reasonable pair, so you're behind, you need to improve, and you have a dead hand. Save your money.
You should probably give it up on sixth. If he really is a good player, his raise on fifth can only mean a set or a pair and a flush draw, maybe a big pair in the hole. You should be beaten with at most three outs in a smallish pot. The rest of the hand seems OK. The second hand looks fine, although I would probably bet when I made two pair.
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#5
10-02-2005, 12:33 PM
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Re: Two hands v a very good player? (SDM hands)
[ QUOTE ]
On the first hand, third street is an easy, easy fold. Even for half a bet, it isn't worth playing a pair of Sixes with a Six gone. In this case in particular, you're up against a guy whom you perceive as being a good player who raised in early position. I don't see him doing this with 876, and with so many hearts gone, he can hardly have done this with a three-flush. Presumably, he has some reasonable pair, so you're behind, you need to improve, and you have a dead hand. Save your money. You should probably give it up on sixth. If he really is a good player, his raise on fifth can only mean a set or a pair and a flush draw, maybe a big pair in the hole. You should be beaten with at most three outs in a smallish pot. The rest of the hand seems OK. The second hand looks fine, although I would probably bet when I made two pair. [/ QUOTE ] This is why I don't play stud hi
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#6
10-02-2005, 12:38 PM
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Re: Two hands v a very good player? (SDM hands)
[ QUOTE ]
Since I don't have the experience that many of you have, I ahve a question regading hand 1. Why isn't this a fold on 3rd Street after the complete bet? you've got a pair of 6's with an 8 kicker and one of your 6's is already dead. Thanks [/ QUOTE ] He has already put $1 in and he only has to call $1 more. There is $1.50 from antes and the $2 bet. 4.5:1 pot odds. And lots of cards that help him.
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#7
10-02-2005, 12:42 PM
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Re: Two hands v a very good player? (SDM hands)
No, you're right, I was in zombie mode when i posted last night. Third is an easy fold with his cards dead especially against a somewhat solid player. If his sixes were hidden and he had an overcard with all live cards, then this call makes a lot more sense.
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#8
10-03-2005, 08:14 AM
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Re: Two hands v a very good player? (SDM hands)
"And lots of cards that help him."
See, this is the part I don't get. That can be said about virtually any 3 starting cards it seems. I look at this hand, he has 668. one of his 6's is dead, if he's even thinking about a srt8 a couple of those are dead as well and there are 2 K's on the board. To me I don't care if I am getting 4.5 to 1 odds it seems i'd be throwing money away, but that's why I am asking the question to learn more. Thanks for the discussion so far.
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