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Old 10-07-2005, 11:20 PM
ep510 ep510 is offline
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Default Turn raise for free SD

Villian is 32/14/1.2 over 120 hands.

Party Poker 5.00/10.00 Hold'em <font color="#0000FF">(10 handed)</font> link

Preflop: Hero is BB with J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
UTG calls, <font color="#666666">5 folds</font>, Button calls, <font color="#CC3333">SB raises</font>, Hero calls, UTG calls, Button calls.

Flop: (8.00 SB) 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, UTG folds, Button folds, SB calls.

Turn: (6.00 BB) A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>
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Old 10-07-2005, 11:25 PM
thesharpie thesharpie is offline
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Default Re: Turn raise for free SD

Well, you can't fold to a 3 bet, he's not folding a better hand, and never a draw. The only thing you can hope to fold is a hand that's way behind. I just call down.

Edit: What was your reason behind the turn raise?
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Old 10-07-2005, 11:52 PM
DrewOnTilt DrewOnTilt is offline
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Default I agree with theSharpie

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Villian is 32/14/1.2 over 120 hands.

Party Poker 5.00/10.00 Hold'em <font color="#0000FF">(10 handed)</font> link

Preflop: Hero is BB with J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
UTG calls, <font color="#666666">5 folds</font>, Button calls, <font color="#CC3333">SB raises</font>, Hero calls, UTG calls, Button calls.

Flop: (8.00 SB) 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, UTG folds, Button folds, SB calls.

Turn: (6.00 BB) A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>

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If he is drawing to the A-hi flush then he just sucked out on you.

I am not sure what you are trying to accomplish by raising the stop 'n go. Getting 3-bet would truly suck. What were your thoughts?
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Old 10-07-2005, 11:56 PM
ep510 ep510 is offline
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Default Re: Turn raise for free SD

I raised because:

(1) I could be ahead, so the raise is for value, and to charge him for a draw.
(2) I'm behind to an ace, but villian could have raised pf with Axs, and donkbet this turn with top pair. However, I doubt he'll 3-bet with a weak ace, and possibly not even with AK, AQ. If this is the case, then raising will often gain me an extra bet because if I were to just call turn and hit, villian could likely check-call river because of the 4 to a straight on the board.
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Old 10-08-2005, 12:45 AM
vmacosta vmacosta is offline
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Default Re: Turn raise for free SD

You raise for a free showdown when you might have the best hand but can safely fold to a 3-bet. This is NOT the case here as you are very likely behind but could suck out. Call--free showdowns are like the free card play--overrated when overused.
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