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Old 12-13-2005, 04:24 AM
AtlBrvs4Life AtlBrvs4Life is offline
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Default Re: SB pushes for 19xBB and you have QJs

Ok this is obviously a fold, but what range of hands does everyone call with?
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Old 12-13-2005, 11:42 AM
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Default Re: SB pushes for 19xBB and you have QJs

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Ok this is obviously a fold, but what range of hands does everyone call with?

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right around the range of hands that crushes A8: A9+, 66+, KQ

which is why i hate this push with a8. imo, raise > call > push > fold
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Old 12-13-2005, 12:16 PM
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Default Re: SB pushes for 19xBB and you have QJs

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imo, raise > call > push > fold

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I think the big question here is raise vs. call. I like calling with this stack size because I'm just at the limit where I can afford to lose one blind if I whiff, and might be able to double up if I flop an A and villain doesn't believe I have it. It's hard to put numbers to this, though. Also, calling and getting raised is very awkward.
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Old 12-13-2005, 12:21 PM
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Default Re: SB pushes for 19xBB and you have QJs

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imo, raise > call > push > fold

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I think the big question here is raise vs. call. I like calling with this stack size because I'm just at the limit where I can afford to lose one blind if I whiff, and might be able to double up if I flop an A and villain doesn't believe I have it. It's hard to put numbers to this, though. Also, calling and getting raised is very awkward.

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i don't hate a limp-reraise against an aggro player. one nice thing about A8 is that is that it does well against worse Ax and KJ-type hands. open-pushing shuts out those hands, but limp-reraising can get you all-in with them.
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Old 12-13-2005, 12:25 PM
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imo, raise > call > push > fold

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I think the big question here is raise vs. call. I like calling with this stack size because I'm just at the limit where I can afford to lose one blind if I whiff, and might be able to double up if I flop an A and villain doesn't believe I have it. It's hard to put numbers to this, though. Also, calling and getting raised is very awkward.

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i don't hate a limp-reraise against an aggro player. one nice thing about A8 is that is that it does well against worse Ax and KJ-type hands. open-pushing shuts out those hands, but limp-reraising can get you all-in with them.

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Good point. I'm officially in favor of limping > raising > pushing > folding.
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