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10-24-2005, 08:39 PM
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Re: Hands like this are why I\'m not approaching 1 skrillion BB/100
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[ QUOTE ] I assume you're saying the SB open-completed and you have no hand and no draw... [ QUOTE ] What opponent are you betting into, and on what street? [/ QUOTE ] This one. On the flop. /mc [/ QUOTE ] He's not folding the flop [/ QUOTE ] Your read did not indicate that. Against an average/crappy, non-tricky player that completes in the SB and then checks the flop you should be betting a lot of the time. This is one of the ways that position is profitable. This seems pretty obvious to me. Also, you're not betting "into" him. Which is sort of the whole point. /mc 
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#12
10-24-2005, 08:43 PM
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Re: Hands like this are why I\'m not approaching 1 skrillion BB/100
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] I assume you're saying the SB open-completed and you have no hand and no draw... [ QUOTE ] What opponent are you betting into, and on what street? [/ QUOTE ] This one. On the flop. /mc [/ QUOTE ] He's not folding the flop [/ QUOTE ] Your read did not indicate that. Against an average/crappy, non-tricky player that completes in the SB and then checks the flop you should be betting a lot of the time. This is one of the ways that position is profitable. This seems pretty obvious to me. Also, you're not betting "into" him. Which is sort of the whole point. /mc [/ QUOTE ] no, you're definitely right about a bet. it's a value bet. and bet the turn too. and raise preflop.
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#13
10-24-2005, 08:45 PM
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Re: Hands like this are why I\'m not approaching 1 skrillion BB/100
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it's a value bet. [/ QUOTE ] It's also a bet I would make frequently with any 2 cards. Which is how this was originally posted. /mc
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#14
10-24-2005, 10:07 PM
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Re: Hands like this are why I\'m not approaching 1 skrillion BB/100
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[ QUOTE ] it's a value bet. [/ QUOTE ] It's also a bet I would make frequently with any 2 cards. Which is how this was originally posted. /mc [/ QUOTE ] I'm not disagreeing that it's a value bet. I'm disagreeing very much that he'll fold the flop. I don't need a read other than his VP$IP to tell that. And this is actually HU, so he's on the button.
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10-24-2005, 10:47 PM
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Re: Hands like this are why I\'m not approaching 1 skrillion BB/100
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Raise pre-flop, bet flop and see where you are from there... [/ QUOTE ] yup. If this guy is going to play almost ANY hand...and call almost any flop...then you are very likely ahead pre-flop, and also are still likely to be ahead on the flop with your 'no-pair, top-kicker'. Would this guy typically raise any ace preflop? If so, then betting the flop makes even more sense (since he didn't raise pre-flop here).
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10-24-2005, 11:39 PM
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Re: Hands like this are why I\'m not approaching 1 skrillion BB/100
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And this is actually HU, so he's on the button. [/ QUOTE ] Anything else we should know? /mc
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#19
10-25-2005, 03:15 AM
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Re: Hands like this are why I\'m not approaching 1 skrillion BB/100
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yeah. no kidding. kind of hard to evaluate. [/ QUOTE ] My mistake, it was from memory and I had to go through the hand history. I play very sh games with various numbers of players, so I'm never sure what's going on.
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#20
10-25-2005, 05:24 AM
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Re: Hands like this are why I\'m not approaching 1 skrillion BB/100
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I think situations like this has very little effect on your winrate. [/ QUOTE ] Yep, bottom line is against a VPIP 90% u should valuebet and never bluff. This is the important thing. And K high is normally a valueraise preflop and valuebet on flop, specially when A hits because why should he not raise A preflop? If u should raise preflop and bet flop got a lot to do with how he reacts when u limp/raise preflop and flop and how u have played so far. I - for example - play pretty aggressive HU so I sometimes play a marginal hand like this against a loose player, when there is no money in pot, weak as hell. Then when I bluff in bigger pots I get better paid. Or so I hope. 55 hands is a lot headsup. U got to have a better read then what u gave us or u shouldnt play shorthanded and HU but stay at fulltables untill u improve this skill.
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