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Old 12-24-2004, 01:04 AM
JerseyTom JerseyTom is offline
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Default 77 in BB vs possible steal raise

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Preflop: JerseyTom is BB with 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">7 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, JerseyTom calls.

Assuming this is OK?

Flop: (4.50 SB) J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
JerseyTom...???


What do you do on the flop and why?
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Old 12-24-2004, 01:10 AM
Shillx Shillx is offline
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Default Re: 77 in BB vs possible steal raise

Here is what I would do. There are other good ways as well.

Bet. If he raises call it, check/call the turn and bet the river (assuming blanks slide). If he calls the flop, bet and again and fold if raised. River action depends on the player.

Brad
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Old 12-24-2004, 01:17 AM
JerseyTom JerseyTom is offline
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Default Re: 77 in BB vs possible steal raise

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Here is what I would do. There are other good ways as well.

Bet. If he raises call it, check/call the turn and bet the river (assuming blanks slide). If he calls the flop, bet and again and fold if raised. River action depends on the player.

Brad

[/ QUOTE ]

What are "blanks" here? No cards higher than the board?

Maybe I'm already drawing thin vs. a pair of J's or better. Isn't this kind of expensive, he says weak-tightly...

I guess I just don't understand this line.

Tom
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Old 02-23-2005, 07:54 AM
TomBrooks TomBrooks is offline
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Default Re: 77 in BB vs possible steal raise

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I guess I just don't understand this line.

[/ QUOTE ]Your taking a shot he doesn't have a pocket pair bigger than yours or a Jack. You push and if he pushes back you call down or give up. I think thats what Shillx was suggesting.
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Old 02-23-2005, 07:57 AM
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Default Re: 77 in BB vs possible steal raise

What about reraising PF? 77 is not exactly bad HU.
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Old 02-23-2005, 10:12 AM
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Default Re: 77 in BB vs possible steal raise

I think button could be raising with a wide range of hands, and yours could easily be better. I might re-raise pre-flop.

I certainly bet/raise this flop. I think you can find out where you at, and possibly take the hand down, before the turn.
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Old 02-23-2005, 11:10 AM
crownjules crownjules is offline
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Default Re: 77 in BB vs possible steal raise

What about a flop C/R? He raised preflop, he's more than likely going to bet out on the flop if checked to.

But with a mid pocket pair, I'd definitely 3-bet preflop and come out firing on the flop.
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Old 02-23-2005, 11:54 AM
flopwell flopwell is offline
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Default Re: 77 in BB vs possible steal raise

Reraise PF, because if the guy is trying to steal, he may just fold right there.Probably fold to a cap. If the flop does come, bet out-because you will probably pick it up right there.
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Old 02-23-2005, 11:59 AM
GrunchCan GrunchCan is offline
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Default Re: 77 in BB vs possible steal raise

Either bet our or CR, depending on your read of the opponent.

If your read of the opponent tells you that he is a weak bluffer, the CR is the better play. Let him bet then pop him, and he'll collapse and give you the pot.

Otherwise betting is better, especially against stubborn or tough opponents.
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Old 02-23-2005, 12:55 PM
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Default Re: 77 in BB vs possible steal raise

I like a flop c/r, call a reraise.

(It should be noted that I am overprotective heads-up, and not necessarily a champion of shorthanded play)

-tg
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