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11-01-2005, 06:59 PM
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Confidence Boosting -- 10/20 Hand #3
When I play poker I like playing confidently, and October did a good job of tearing away some confidence so the last few days I have been playing 8-tables of 10/20 6max to regain that necessary swagger, and along with that, analyzing my game more closely. Here is a a checkup hand from those first 3000 hands of playing this game:
3 handed. I call the button's raise with Ks7c from the BB. Flop Kh 4s 3c. I check and call. Turn 3h. I bet he raises I call. Turn 7d. I check he bets I raise. Assume no reads for this hand or any hands I post, though I am playing 33/23.5/2.0 style and some opponents may or may not be noticing this. 
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#3
11-01-2005, 07:04 PM
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Re: Confidence Boosting -- 10/20 Hand #3
I like the turn bet only because the board paired so it looks like you are being a retarded donk, and I think you are apt to get some call downs you otherwise wouldnt. Otherwise I just check and hope he bets again as free cards arent that big a concern
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11-01-2005, 09:36 PM
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Re: Confidence Boosting -- 10/20 Hand #3
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[ QUOTE ] this is a line i never take. [/ QUOTE ] probably because it gets you less money against most donks [/ QUOTE ] The advantage of this line is that most 10/20 donks have no idea how to interpet turn donkbets. They pretty much invariably put you on a picked up draw and raise their A high or wahtever for a free SD. Its also a good way to make sure you get at least 2 bets out of them on the expensive streets if they have a PP below the top card on the board, since tehy will often check through the turn or river in that scenario.
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#7
11-02-2005, 04:48 PM
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Re: Confidence Boosting -- 10/20 Hand #3
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] this is a line i never take. [/ QUOTE ] probably because it gets you less money against most donks [/ QUOTE ] The advantage of this line is that most 10/20 donks have no idea how to interpet turn donkbets. They pretty much invariably put you on a picked up draw and raise their A high or wahtever for a free SD. Its also a good way to make sure you get at least 2 bets out of them on the expensive streets if they have a PP below the top card on the board, since tehy will often check through the turn or river in that scenario. [/ QUOTE ] Exactly my thinking, which is why a river donk should be considered.
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#8
11-01-2005, 07:14 PM
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Re: Confidence Boosting -- 10/20 Hand #3
So you think check/call and leading turn provokes more calldowns/bluffs than checkraising flop? Interesting. My plan is generally either to c/r flop or c/r turn after a flop like this, depending on how likely the villain is to autobet turn (seems fairly likely in the case of an unknown in a 3-handed 10/20 game). So I guess plan A for me would be to checkraise the turn and call down any reraises, consoling myself that he has at most 3 outs if he checks behind. Plan B has always been to c/r flop and keep going but I can see some merit to using your line as well since it looks very donkish.
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#9
11-02-2005, 02:08 AM
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Re: Confidence Boosting -- 10/20 Hand #3
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So you think check/call and leading turn provokes more calldowns/bluffs than checkraising flop? Interesting. My plan is generally either to c/r flop or c/r turn after a flop like this, depending on how likely the villain is to autobet turn [/ QUOTE ] Agreed 100%. Schneids, The stop & go line you took on the flop/turn is much better for when you have nothing. It just seems to me like whenever I try this with a hand, (top pair would be considered a "hand" of course) villain either folds when I'm winning or raises when I'm losing.
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#10
11-01-2005, 07:16 PM
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Re: Confidence Boosting -- 10/20 Hand #3
schneider,
I really like the check-call and then donk line with top pair of Aces or Kings, and I got it from you. I like it because everyone always autobets the flop, but many opponents will often check the turn and this line prevents that. also it prevents me from getting three bet on the turn if I c/r and having to fold without a read. a lot of these reasons sound weak though so I'm sure there is more behind it. I assume you were c/calling the river UI? however I notice, as Victor has pointed out, that it does not seem to get much love here. so, could you maybe explain your thoughts behind this line?
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