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Old 12-14-2005, 12:01 AM
sirpupnyc sirpupnyc is offline
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Default Should I be the 2nd caller? Pokerroom 22

This is a 22 on Pokerroom, second hand, so I don't know anything about anybody at the table other than that the usual 1/3 to 1/2 of them are total morons.

Seat 1:Villain 2 ($1,500 in chips)
Seat 2: CO ($1,610 in chips)
Seat 3: Hero [K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img],K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]] ($1,500 in chips)
Seat 4: BN ($1,490 in chips)
Seat 5: SB ($1,480 in chips)
Seat 6: BB ($1,500 in chips)
Seat 7: UTC ($1,500 in chips)
Seat 8: Villain 1 ($1,500 in chips)
Seat 9: MP1 ($1,440 in chips)
Seat 10: MP2 ($1,480 in chips)

ANTES/BLINDS
SB posts blind ($10), BB posts blind ($20).

PRE-FLOP
1 fold, Villain 1 bets $80, 2 folds, Villain 2 calls $80, 1 fold, Hero bets $250, 3 folds, Villain 1 calls $170, Villain 2 calls $170.

FLOP [board cards 10[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img],Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img],2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] ]
Villain 1 bets $1,250 and is all-in, Villain 2 calls $1,250 and is all-in, Hero ???
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Old 12-14-2005, 12:15 AM
pindawg pindawg is offline
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Default Re: Should I be the 2nd caller? Pokerroom 22

Calling here is fine, folding is ok too. This is pretty read dependant but it doesn't look like you're against AA or QQ. V1 prolly has AQ, V2 may or may not have 1010 or 22, but I'd pay to see.
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Old 12-14-2005, 12:01 PM
sirpupnyc sirpupnyc is offline
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Default Re: Should I be the 2nd caller? Pokerroom 22

Why don't you think AA or QQ? I don't give V1 that much credit...it's V2's call (and it was quick) that gives me pause.

I figure one or the other surely has AK, probably V1. AA, QQ, TT, QT and 22 (yes, even QT and 22 might have called the PFR here) aren't open-pushing this flop, they're wondering how best to set a trap. Pushing is an "I have AK, that means I'm supposed to win" move. It's also an "I can't conceive of any hand the pre-flop re-raiser and the other caller behind me might have that would would beat me, because I have AK and that means I win" move.

Once V2 calls, though, I figure one of them has to have a set or two pair. One's an idiot heading to the lobby, the other's doubling up. It's just a question of which is which. With two people ahead of me who've already committed their entire stacks, how much can I like my measly overpair?
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Old 12-14-2005, 12:55 PM
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Default Re: Should I be the 2nd caller? Pokerroom 22

[ QUOTE ]
This is a 22 on Pokerroom, second hand, so I don't know anything about anybody at the table other than that the usual 1/3 to 1/2 of them are total morons.

Seat 1:Villain 2 ($1,500 in chips)
Seat 2: CO ($1,610 in chips)
Seat 3: Hero [K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img],K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]] ($1,500 in chips)
Seat 4: BN ($1,490 in chips)
Seat 5: SB ($1,480 in chips)
Seat 6: BB ($1,500 in chips)
Seat 7: UTC ($1,500 in chips)
Seat 8: Villain 1 ($1,500 in chips)
Seat 9: MP1 ($1,440 in chips)
Seat 10: MP2 ($1,480 in chips)

ANTES/BLINDS
SB posts blind ($10), BB posts blind ($20).

PRE-FLOP
1 fold, Villain 1 bets $80, 2 folds, Villain 2 calls $80, 1 fold, Hero bets $250, 3 folds, Villain 1 calls $170, Villain 2 calls $170.

FLOP [board cards 10[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img],Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img],2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] ]
Villain 1 bets $1,250 and is all-in, Villain 2 calls $1,250 and is all-in, Hero ???

[/ QUOTE ]

Raise more preflop, 350-500 depending on what feels best for you.

At the 22 buy ins, you must make this flop call under all read-free environments - expect to see KJ, AT, KQ and other such raggy hands here.
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Old 12-14-2005, 01:25 PM
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Default Re: Should I be the 2nd caller? Pokerroom 22

Fold. I think the chances are better than 50% that you are against a set if not two. The 22's aren't great play but I give my opponents the pokerroom 22's more credit than this.
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