Let the berating begin.... KK on the button, fold on the flop

Pil Sung Do · #1 04-06-2005, 03:34 PM

I'm posting both here and in the micro limits forum. I'd like to get opinions from both. Only real read is that SB is loose and will chase just about anything.

PokerStars 1/2 Hold'em (10 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is Button with K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
2 folds, UTG+2 calls, 3 folds, CO calls, Hero raises, SB calls, 1 fold, UTG+2 calls, CO calls.

Flop: (9 SB) 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (4 players)
SB bets, UTG+2 calls, CO raises, Hero folds, SB calls, UTG+2 calls.

Turn: (7.50 BB) A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (3 players)
SB checks, UTG+2 checks, CO bets, SB calls, UTG+2 calls.

River: (10.50 BB) K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (3 players)
SB checks, UTG+2 checks, CO bets, SB folds, UTG+2 calls.

Final Pot: 12.50 BB

PokerBob · #2 04-06-2005, 03:36 PM

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I'm posting both here and in the micro limits forum. I'd like to get opinions from both. Only real read is that SB is loose and will chase just about anything.

PokerStars 1/2 Hold'em (10 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is Button with K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
2 folds, UTG+2 calls, 3 folds, CO calls, Hero raises, SB calls, 1 fold, UTG+2 calls, CO calls.

Flop: (9 SB) 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (4 players)
SB bets, UTG+2 calls, CO raises, Hero folds, SB calls, UTG+2 calls.

Turn: (7.50 BB) A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (3 players)
SB checks, UTG+2 checks, CO bets, SB calls, UTG+2 calls.

River: (10.50 BB) K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (3 players)
SB checks, UTG+2 checks, CO bets, SB folds, UTG+2 calls.

Final Pot: 12.50 BB

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This is a travesty. 3-bet that flop EVERYMOTHERFUCKINGTIME. Consider yourself berated.

brazilio · #3 04-06-2005, 03:38 PM

3-bet the flop, if he bets the turn call, if he bets the river I'd most likely raise.

private joker · #4 04-06-2005, 03:38 PM

I really, really do not understand. Why? Were you thinking at all? You have an overpair to the board AND the second nut flush draw. Your equity is massive. You either have the best hand now, or will have it by the end of the hand far more often than the other two donks. Jesus.

Chris Dow · #5 04-06-2005, 03:39 PM

Yeah, so this hand isn't even close, anything other than 3 betting the flop = bad. You do realize that you have the king of spades right? Defintely not the time to lay down.

Megenoita · #6 04-06-2005, 03:44 PM

Refer to Pokerbob [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]. I don't think you should even post your thinking, but instead commit to trying to forget it.

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flair1239 · #7 04-06-2005, 03:44 PM

Just show the flop action.

I am three-betting the flop. I may still be ahead. I also want to see what the CO does. Depneding on what type of player he is, he might have raised PF if he had a decent suited A.

Bascially I do not like this fold yet. You may still be ahead and you have a redraw, that may be the best.

Jules22 · #8 04-06-2005, 03:47 PM

why did you fold the 2nd nut flush draw? i dont get it

PaultheS · #9 04-06-2005, 03:48 PM

okay, so this is simple. let's pretend he has red kings.

call the flop, raise a non-spade/ace turn? fold to the CO's turn bet if the Ah falls?

DMBFan23 · #10 04-06-2005, 04:15 PM