Dare I cold call?

aflaba · #1 09-23-2005, 02:51 PM

Preflop: Hero is CO with 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
UTG calls, <font color="#CC3333">MP raises</font>, Hero ?, (BU, SB, BB + UTG left to act)
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MP, the preflop raises is 33/11.
UTG, the preflop limper is 55/25.
BU, SB, the ones left to act are all 40-50/X.

Is it ok for me to cold call?
How about if there was one more limper?
Or is that all the more reason to punish?</font>

aflaba · #2 09-23-2005, 02:55 PM

Brief thoughts:

I'm behind to UTG:s range, but not by much.
I'd like to get it HUP, but I don't think I can.
So I want to get it multiway.

By cold calling I can raise favorable flops where I don't set and face peolple with two.

Moneyline · #3 09-23-2005, 03:07 PM

In this situation I think cold calling is best. You'll probably end up getting 4:1 on your call, and if you flop big you are likely to get action from them.

Lurkmaster Flex · #4 09-23-2005, 04:45 PM

This is an interesting situation given the passivity of the table and the likelyhood the tag to your right was trying to isolate a weak early limper. I don't know which is best but I think it's possible to make a case for CCing, 3-betting or folding this. Prolly 40% cc, 40% 3-bet and 20% fold. Lean more towards ccing depending on whether your loose passives are the type that limp a lot for 1 bet or will cc themselves.

Ray Of Light · #5 09-23-2005, 05:39 PM

The UTG is likely to call the raise, the BB is likely to call also (and maybe the SB).

With two to three others likely to be in this pot, I would gladly coldcall here, since a reraise is unlikely to isolate the MP, at a table this loose.

bank · #6 09-23-2005, 05:46 PM

This is one of those rare spots where I think a cold call is good.

#7 09-23-2005, 07:50 PM

I really think that the CC here is the best option. Playing this hand you need a low flop followed by low turn and river vs callers to win the hand usualy mulitway.
So, for all the times when the flop lands with a 9 or higher you are looking to make trips or fold (about 1 out of 8) therefore you are looking to get back about 8 times the money you put in preflop. so , but in 1BB and look to win 8+ BB when you hit and take down the occasional low board where no one makes 2 pair or a draw.

Also,
If you do 3-bet here you will find yourself folding on the turn and river A LOT after you put in 4 small bets maybe 6.