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QJs
2nd orbit, no real reads.
Party 10/20 (6-max, 6 handed) Hero is button with Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]. MP calls, Hero raises, SB calls, BB calls, MP calls. Flop (8 SB): K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] SB checks, BB checks, MP checks, Hero bets, SB calls, BB folds, MP calls. Turn (5.5BB): J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] SB checks, MP checks, Hero bets, SB calls, MP calls River (8.5BB): 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] SB bets, MP folds, Hero calls. Thoughts on the flop bet (i.e. who checks and why)? Thoughts on the turn bet (i.e. who checks and why)? |
#2
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Re: QJs
I like all streets
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#3
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Re: QJs
Looks good to me.
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#4
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Re: QJs
I wish people would actually consider a flop check or a turn check [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]
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#5
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Re: QJs
Gotta bet the flop b/c you would do this w/AK or AA or just about any other hand you raised pf. Not worth varying your play and it allows you to keep control of the hand and fold some hands better than yours.
Turn bet is standard given the flop action River is standard NH |
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Re: QJs
What is your plan on the turn if checkraised?
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#7
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Re: QJs
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What is your plan on the turn if checkraised? [/ QUOTE ] Call down I guess...that's why I suggested maybe checking the turn, I'm in a bad spot if I get check-raised. |
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Re: QJs
In hands like this, if a turn checkraise means I'm beaten I bet the turn, if I might be ahead even after being checkraised on the turn I will check (unless it's a huge LAG and I expect to be ahead the majority of the time when checkraised), especially because the type of opponents who are likely to checkraise the turn with a worse hand are also the type who are prone to betting the river into you after you check the turn.
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#9
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Re: QJs
Flop bet is just about automatic. Without a read, turn bet is, too. If I feared getting check-raised, I'd check it and call a bet on the end or bet a non-scare card. This could induce some river bluffs from hands that were peeling for an ace that would fold the turn or check-raise bluff.
In general, I think you miss too much value from lower pairs and give a free shot at the flush. |
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Re: QJs
In a smaller pot, I would probably take the free card on the flop.
BUT, because this pot is big, you have a back door flush, back door straight, and two overcards to the seven on the board that may still be good; the pot is large enough to put in a bet on the flop. You might scare off some better hands, and whittle down the field, giving your hand a better chance of winning this large pot. I would check the turn unimproved, but as you improved, the turn bet is standard IMO. The river, without a read, is standard too IMO. |
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