Stats for Fun - 10k hands @ 4 tables.

[RunDownHouse]

Any increase in VPIP will likely come from blind defense and stealing, and your steal isn't way low at 33, so I'd look at blind play.

So play more from the blinds?

True

[JackThree]

i think the only problem with your stats is your aggression. ._.

[MattC]

isnt his fold to river bet way too high? like WAYYYY TO HIIIGHH either your calling too many turns or folding way too many winners at the river. supposed to be like 37 or something but its in the 50's!

and yeh your fold bb to steal is sorta high, thats where you can loosen up some considerably, i think a lot of players are in the 45% range?

[TomBrooks]

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isnt his fold to river bet way too high? either your calling too many turns or folding way too many winners at the river. supposed to be like 37 or something but its in the 50's!

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I want to get my Folded to River Bet down also. It is 51%. Can I use any of the other stats to try to narrow down the problem? Like am I going to the River too much in the first place etc. If so, which stats would those be and what kind of number ranges would I be looking for?

[jba]

all of these stats are so interconnected

let me tell you a story about an overly agressive little tag hero that never smooth calls, he just bets and bets and raises and raises some more. the villain who weathers this storm and has the balls to bet the river probably has hero SMOKED most of the time, and hero is probably right to be folding a lot

[hemstock]

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isnt his fold to river bet way too high? either your calling too many turns or folding way too many winners at the river. supposed to be like 37 or something but its in the 50's!

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I want to get my Folded to River Bet down also. It is 51%. Can I use any of the other stats to try to narrow down the problem? Like am I going to the River too much in the first place etc. If so, which stats would those be and what kind of number ranges would I be looking for?

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I think this occurs mostly in these type of hands.
You raise AJ and a loose and passive moron calls you. Flop misses you, he checks, you bet, he doesnt fold. Turn is a brick and you check behind the moron because he folds to a turn bet like 1 out of 20 times. River is another brick and you get the donk bet. I fold these kind of situations way too often. Ít's not like we are folding top pairs or when we have a hand. It's when we don't have a hand that we fold the best hand. I'd guess in order to bring that number down, we have to call down more with showdown value hands like K9+ mostly when it's HU.

[MattC]

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isnt his fold to river bet way too high? either your calling too many turns or folding way too many winners at the river. supposed to be like 37 or something but its in the 50's!

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I want to get my Folded to River Bet down also. It is 51%. Can I use any of the other stats to try to narrow down the problem? Like am I going to the River too much in the first place etc. If so, which stats would those be and what kind of number ranges would I be looking for?

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To be honest, I'm having the same problem and it's been a pain for me to figure out how to lower it mainly because I don't see how I can. However, I have found some ways to figure out the problem. A good way to try to determine where your mistakes are is to take a details page of a very strong winning player and compare the flop/turn/river -> check/bet/raise/fold %'s for each street. Through these stats you can, for example, see if maybe your calling to many turns. What this could mean is perhaps you're not raising the turn enough to try to get a free showdown. etc.

Tell me if you figure it out.

Hi True-

You should really be calling a bit more and raising a bit less. Flop aggression above 4 is craziness, and it's even worse to see it above 4 on the turn. Your blind defense looks OK, but you could probably defend the big blind a bit more? Out of curiosity, what's your loss rate from the BB and the SB? You might want to raise more from the SB, too (and I'm not talking about your l/rr with 63s [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img] ).

I admire your WTSD though, I'm a dummyhead and trying to pull mine above the abysmal rate of 30.25%

[RunDownHouse]

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So play more from the blinds?

True

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I play a bit more out of the big blind than you do. That may be appropriate if the general 1/2 player is more passive, only raising with bigger hands than the avg 5/10 player typically does.

But if you're looking to up your VPIP, don't start doing crazy stuff like trying to open more hands UTG. Steal a little bit more and defend a little more. Just lowering your standards a little bit will pull your VPIP up a couple points and also stretch your game, hopefully getting you to think more and improving your game in general.

FWIW, I'm on the tight side of this forum, usually running around 24/17.