How do you view astrology?

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I was wondering whats your vision on astrology( I used the search function and it turns out that sklansky would rather have a son addicted to heroine instead of one that belived in astrology in spite of the evidence, but all the debate was about that statement)
Anyway whats your vision about astrology? Im reading Linda Goodman book called Sun sings( she is supposed to be a famous astrologer from the 60s) and I think she just adds typical human characterisitcs to each sign.(we cancer actually care for others but we prefer to wait for somebody else to help them. I think all humans are a bit like that) However my sister( who just ended medicine on the best chilean school) insists that astrology is true and that Im a typical Cancer. Even my dad says astrology is kinda true and he says that when Im older I will understand astrology( he is a top level civil engineer, he also like pysics a lot and has like ten copybooks with equations).

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I was wondering whats your vision on astrology( I used the search function and it turns out that sklansky would rather have a son addicted to heroine instead of one that belived in astrology in spite of the evidence, but all the debate was about that statement)
Anyway whats your vision about astrology? Im reading Linda Goodman book called Sun sings( she is supposed to be a famous astrologer from the 60s) and I think she just adds typical human characterisitcs to each sign.(we cancer actually care for others but we prefer to wait for somebody else to help them. I think all humans are a bit like that) However my sister( who just ended medicine on the best chilean school) insists that astrology is true and that Im a typical Cancer. Even my dad says astrology is kinda true and he says that when Im older I will understand astrology( he is a top level civil engineer, he also like pysics a lot and has like ten copybooks with equations).

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I believe astrology is total nonsense....but that's a typical Aries response, of course.

[imported_luckyme]

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sklansky would rather have a son addicted to heroine instead of one that belived in astrology

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I never went to the thread, but I can relate to what DS was expressing (??). Heroin addiction can be cured. Astrology addiction is more indicative of inherent problems with brain/mind structure, and even if the specific issue of astrology can be addressed, there is still the perhaps unsolvable situation of "a mind that could be seduced by astrology". That is scary.

luckyme,
my mind would change, if it thought I was wrong.

[maurile]

Astrology is awesome. I would rather my son believe in astrology than be addicted to meth.

[hmkpoker]

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Astrology addiction is more indicative of inherent problems with brain/mind structure

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So is a heroin addiction.

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So is a heroin addiction.




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You are both wrong?

[hmkpoker]

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You are both wrong?

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Be quiet, the adults are speaking.

[imported_luckyme]

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Astrology addiction is more indicative of inherent problems with brain/mind structure

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So is a heroin addiction.

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Heroin addiction is easier to cure because you only need to deal with the specific addictive nature that herion is laying on the person. You can become heroin addicted by forced injection or twists on that, you don't need a certain type of mind in order to 'accept' the addiction.

It's not just a matter of an 'addictive personality'... if you get hooked on herion you're hooked, no types of people excluded. Astrology, otoh, requires something faulty in the reasoning dept, and astrology is just evidence of it, it's not the cause.

luckyme

[hmkpoker]

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Heroin addiction is easier to cure because you only need to deal with the specific addictive nature that herion is laying on the person.

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That's pretty naive. You do realize that most people who have done heroin tried it once or twice, then stopped, right? Yes, it's addictive, and so is oxy and opium...I've done them at parties before, then yes, there was a mild craving the day after, but I just said no, that's the start of addiction, stopped, and never had a problem with it. Same is true of heroin from what most of the people I know who've tried it have said. Addiction always requires a certain kind of ignorance.

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You can become heroin addicted by forced injection or twists on that

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No, you don't. That doesn't even happen! Who forces people to inject heroin?

I have trouble believing that an "astrology" addiction is as bad as a heroin addiction can be, and in the most extreme cases, I'd say it's a general dependance on New Agey spirituality, but that's far from incurable. Hell, I used to be a pretty naive new ager (my astrology library would probably shock you [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]), but once I realized that it causes more harm than good, I decided to break from it. Anyone willing to get control of their life can do the same, and it's the same will that's needed to break a heroin addiction...except you don't need methadone for an astrology addiction [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]

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Astrology addiction is more indicative of inherent problems with brain/mind structure

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So is a heroin addiction.

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Heroin addiction is easier to cure because you only need to deal with the specific addictive nature that herion is laying on the person. You can become heroin addicted by forced injection or twists on that, you don't need a certain type of mind in order to 'accept' the addiction.

It's not just a matter of an 'addictive personality'... if you get hooked on herion you're hooked, no types of people excluded. Astrology, otoh, requires something faulty in the reasoning dept, and astrology is just evidence of it, it's not the cause.

luckyme

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That's wrong - addicts have a different brain chemistry and physiology. It's true that in some imaginable situation, say a person administered opiates as an anasthetic over a period of time, could develop a physical dependency. But after detox the cravings would go. That person isn't an addict, addiction is biological, and when people refer to an 'addictive personality', the reference is to that brain chemistry. You're an addict in the same way you're, for instance, gay.

Addiction can be treated but it can't be cured, hence the expression 'once an addict always an addict'.

A belief in astrology may or may not have some basis in brain wiring, but it certainly can be changed - people change their idealogies and beliefs all the time.

Asides from any of that, I'm sure the original remark was throwaway/semi-humourous - nobody in their right mind would wish heroin addiction on their child over a belief in astrology.



As a sidenote - I read an interesting piece on astrology somewhere once. It was arguing that newborn brain development is largely governed by atmospheric pressure and gravitational forces, which changes seasonally, and as a result of planetary movement. And was suggesting that astrology had some vague scientific basis as a loose and symbolic representation of that.