maybe a little chip dumping between annie and howard? why not?

pokerraja · #1 09-22-2004, 12:00 AM

once it got 3 handed with the family vs. phil, im pretty sure that annie and howard were waiting for legit hand for both of them to go all-in vs each other. i mean why not? i would do it with my sister if it were for 2 mill, heck, we could split the money later. 66 vs. 77 hand was perfect oppurtunity for these 2 to either get annie some more chips or give howard a quick double up. I personally like annie, but dammit, why the emotions when you play your brother? you need to prepare yourself better, you realize you both cant win, dont you?

ThePopinjay · #2 09-22-2004, 12:02 AM

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KanigawaCards7 · #3 09-22-2004, 12:05 AM

NO WAY THERE WAS WAY TOO MUCH EMOTION FOR THERE TO BE CHIP DUMPING THERE. IM ABSOLUTLEY POSITIVE THEY WANTED TO BE THE FINAL TWO.

Annie Duke · #4 09-22-2004, 12:21 AM

I am so offended at this suggestion that I can't even believe it. That is not something in the realm of either Howard's or my possibilities. In fact, I can't even believe I am dignifying this with a response.

Annie

Neil Stevens · #5 09-22-2004, 12:43 AM

With bozos like these who feel the need to tear down anyone who succeeds at anyhing, and who act like anyone they see on TV isn't a real person with real feelings, I'm just glad you haven't let them completely turn you off from reading and posting here.

jedi · #6 09-22-2004, 12:46 AM

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once it got 3 handed with the family vs. phil, im pretty sure that annie and howard were waiting for legit hand for both of them to go all-in vs each other.

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What the hell is that supposed to mean? So you think they were supposed to be waiting for complete crap to go all-in against each other?

3rdEye · #7 09-22-2004, 12:49 AM

Such an allegation is pretty severe. You're accusing Annie and Howard of collusion. I didn't see anything that would even remotely justify such a statement. I think Howard thought he had the best hand, Annie put him on a bluff and/or overcards--end of story. I mean, while I think Annie's call was questionable, it was at least justifiable; after all, I would think she has a pretty good read on her (freaking) brother.

Seriously, there is no justification for such an accusation. I have obviously never met Annie nor Howard in my life, but I'm willing (or, possibly, naive enough) to believe that they are above such obvious collusion--on live TV, no less.

TransientR · #8 09-22-2004, 12:56 AM

I agree. I didn't really like Annie's call, but collusion..geez.

But of course it is always fun watching Phil whine like everything always goes against him ("If it wasn't for bad luck, I would win everytime"); apparently forgetting that if he hadn't caught the miracle 10 to knock out Johnny Chan's KK he wouldn't of even had a chance at the $2 million.

Frank

pokerraja · #9 09-22-2004, 01:06 AM

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I am so offended at this suggestion that I can't even believe it. That is not something in the realm of either Howard's or my possibilities. In fact, I can't even believe I am dignifying this with a response.

Annie

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im sorry, i did not intend to offend you annie. I actually was thinking from a pure strategic standpoint. and im not saying that you guys did indeed do this. anyways, much respect and congratulations.

Annie Duke · #10 09-22-2004, 01:09 AM

Again what they didn't show explains my call there. Howard got all those chips by raising all-in almost every hand he played. He was playing super aggressive all-in poker. My hand rated to be the best hand there and I am willing to gamble on a race to get a hold of a lot of chips in a winner-take-all situation where I was definitely not the best player left. I was not going to outplay my brother. he is a better player than me. There is nothing extra for coming in second over first. So I will gamble there with what rates to be the best hand. I got unlucky that he had an overpair.

Annie