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Old 12-20-2005, 09:16 PM
gildwulf gildwulf is offline
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Default Ed Miller be damned, I\'m folding (5/10)

UTG is very solid ABC multitabling TAG, probably 2+2er. No funny business. Stats are: 25/20/3.91 over 500+ hands, 5.7 on flop, 5 on turn and 1.5 on river. I'm guessing his pre-flop capping range is somewhere around TT-AA, AKs, AKo, AQs, AQo, KQs.

Button is megafish preflop (46/3/.06 over 115 hands) but semi-aggressive post flop with aggression of: 1.1 on flop, 1.9 on turn and 5.75 on river. Very, very strange player.

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Preflop: Hero is BB with A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
<font color="#CC3333">UTG raises</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Button calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">UTG caps</font>, Button calls, Hero calls.

Flop: (12.40 SB) 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">UTG raises</font>, Button calls, <font color="#CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">UTG caps</font>, Button calls, Hero calls.

Turn: (12.20 BB) 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">UTG bets</font>, Button calls, Hero calls.

River: (15.20 BB) J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">UTG bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises</font>, Hero folds, UTG calls.

Final Pot: 19.20 BB
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Old 12-20-2005, 09:25 PM
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Default Re: Ed Miller be damned, I\'m folding (5/10)

I now that 115 hands is not a lot, but he's 5.75 on the river and it's a huge pot. I underestand that your chances may be meek, but I'd still call this river.
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Old 12-20-2005, 09:28 PM
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Default Re: Ed Miller be damned, I\'m folding (5/10)

Do you have a hand range of these two opponents where I can take this pot down 10% of the time? Maybe the megafish is pulling off the riverbluff of the century, but what is UTG staying to the river with that I can beat?
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Old 12-20-2005, 09:35 PM
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Default Re: Ed Miller be damned, I\'m folding (5/10)

Good, easy fold.
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Old 12-20-2005, 09:40 PM
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Default Re: Ed Miller be damned, I\'m folding (5/10)

that fold shouldnt be hard
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Old 12-20-2005, 09:42 PM
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Default Re: Ed Miller be damned, I\'m folding (5/10)

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Do you have a hand range of these two opponents where I can take this pot down 10% of the time? Maybe the megafish is pulling off the riverbluff of the century, but what is UTG staying to the river with that I can beat?

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oh sorry, my mistake, I thought it was one bet to you. No, I don't think you'll take this one one in 10...but I still find folding difficult, but probably correct.
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Old 12-20-2005, 10:11 PM
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Default Re: Ed Miller be damned, I\'m folding (5/10)

I'm a little confused why you 3-bet the solid player's UTG pfr OOP.

The way it played out, I'm a little confused why you led the flop.

The way that played out, I think the river fold is fine.
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Old 12-21-2005, 02:04 AM
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Default Re: Ed Miller be damned, I\'m folding (5/10)

I don't think Ed would tell you to call 2 with that action. It's a much more interesting question had the button only called. And what Redd said: Do we want to lead the flop and if we do, do we 3-bet it, given this guy's "no-nonsense" style and capping range?
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Old 12-21-2005, 02:11 AM
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Default Re: Ed Miller be damned, I\'m folding (5/10)

I don't think I 3-bet this flop.

River is an easy fold.
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Old 12-21-2005, 03:18 AM
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Default Re: Ed Miller be damned, I\'m folding (5/10)

I'd check/raise the flop. And the pot really isn't that big at the river, you're getting ~9.6 to 1 at best, although I think the best you can hope for is 4.8 to 1 once in awhile.
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