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Old 11-03-2005, 08:01 PM
HoldEmKillah HoldEmKillah is offline
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Default Check/calling the flop then leading the turn unimproved

Can one of you guys help give me an example of a good time to do this? I can never pinpoint a good time to use this play.
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Old 11-03-2005, 08:06 PM
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Default Re: Check/calling the flop then leading the turn unimproved

youve got to be kidding me.
this is like "lock thread, ban guy" worthy man... come on.
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Old 11-03-2005, 08:15 PM
HoldEmKillah HoldEmKillah is offline
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Default Re: Check/calling the flop then leading the turn unimproved

No I'm not kidding. There's some very basic things about NL I've kinda winged on my way up to the 1k's. This is one of them. Pot and implied odds and equity are others. But that's for another time.
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Old 11-04-2005, 12:05 AM
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Default Re: Check/calling the flop then leading the turn unimproved

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Can one of you guys help give me an example of a good time to do this? I can never pinpoint a good time to use this play.

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I do this just about never.
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Old 11-04-2005, 12:07 AM
creedofhubris creedofhubris is offline
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Default Re: Check/calling the flop then leading the turn unimproved

BTW, this is usually called a "Stop n go".
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Old 11-04-2005, 12:53 AM
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Default Re: Check/calling the flop then leading the turn unimproved

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Can one of you guys help give me an example of a good time to do this? I can never pinpoint a good time to use this play.

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I do this just about never.

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I do this all the damn time. I think I should be check raising more.
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Old 11-04-2005, 12:56 AM
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Default Re: Check/calling the flop then leading the turn unimproved

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No I'm not kidding. There's some very basic things about NL I've kinda winged on my way up to the 1k's. This is one of them. Pot and implied odds and equity are others. But that's for another time.

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You don't understand pot and implied odds? Seriously?
-James
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Old 11-04-2005, 01:34 AM
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Default Re: Check/calling the flop then leading the turn unimproved

am i the only one that has played with "HEK" before?

he plays by feel
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Old 11-04-2005, 01:51 AM
HoldEmKillah HoldEmKillah is offline
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Default Re: Check/calling the flop then leading the turn unimproved

Of course I do. I'm not an idiot. I meant that I can't figure out pot odds vs $ odds to get EV answers on the fly. Just can't do it. I know what my odds to draw are. If the pot is offering me about that and I feel I'll get paid when I hit then I'll call. If not I fold. I can't do equity equations and can't figure out how much $ I need to make this call +EV and all that like most of you other brainiacs can. Yah Kagame is right. I do play by feel alot. This whole post sounds awful but I'm tired and going to bed so I'm posting it anyway.

G'night.
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Old 11-04-2005, 01:55 AM
HoldEmKillah HoldEmKillah is offline
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Default Re: Check/calling the flop then leading the turn unimproved

This is such an uncomfortabe 'play' to make for me with, say, top pair or some other vulnerable hand. I don't see the point in it when you bet into the aggressor with a marginal hand and juice the pot or let him raise you. If that's the line ya wanna take just bet goddamn flop. Can ANYONE give me a good example? I don't think this is a crazy question. i don't see any use for this type of play.
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