Do we take the free card?

Saborion · #1 12-13-2005, 06:42 AM

Opponent is 55/7/0.9 and 36/53 after 80 hands.

Party Poker 5.00/10.00 Hold'em (6 handed) link

Preflop: Hero is UTG with Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
Hero raises, 2 folds, SB calls, BB calls.

Flop: (6.00 SB) 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (3 players)
SB bets, BB folds, Hero calls.

Turn: (4.00 BB) A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players)
SB checks

Do we take the free card, or do we try to get him to fold whatever he holds? I don't see people fold a pair HU often, but it happens on occasions. Here we're likely to have a ton of outs in case he calls. Two problems with betting. He goes to showdown often, and he may check-raise us.

Also, do you raise QJo UTG in the average 5/10 game?

#2 12-13-2005, 07:07 AM

I'd bet here and would also go to showdown with QJo against a 55 vpip guy every time.

I don't play 5/10 but at the lower levels I would never raise QJo UTG

Peter Harris · #3 12-13-2005, 07:25 AM

it's only 5 handed according to the HH. So he's opening in MP.

that's still a tad loosish, but not heinous.

I'd also bet the turn here. Semibluff the scare card+2nd nuts fd. check behind UI river, but i bet a Q or J.

imported_leader · #4 12-13-2005, 07:30 AM

I think check though is good. I raise QJo in MP most of the time. I don't raise it UTG 6-handed though.

POKhER · #5 12-13-2005, 07:37 AM

bet, i dont think he's going for the checkraise here as no aggression was shown on previous street so he's risking it big time if he is.

I think he's probably scared of the flush, take advantage of this.

I only raise QJo in the CO, so preflop i dont like.

spydog · #6 12-13-2005, 07:49 AM

Check. His flop donk/turn check means he has 9x/6x/5x and wants to pay 2 bets to see showdown instead of 3.

#7 12-13-2005, 07:54 AM

I check this. I have no problem raising QJo UTG. :/

wowacedude · #8 12-13-2005, 08:28 AM

I would check here, i don't see him folding anything better here almost ever. I can't remember one single time when a loosy has donkbet and then check-folded the turn.
Spydog already said all this anyway.

Saborion · #9 12-13-2005, 10:38 AM

So I decided to bet. It didn't feel completely right since him betting the flop then checking the turn seems to be him wanting to go to showdown as cheap as possible. Slight chance of him trying something on the flop and now gave up, but not worth it.

Anyway, action went, check, bet, check-raise, call. Now the river brings the 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img],
for a board of 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]. He checks. Now what? I can't really see any reason to bet here. Are there any?

krishanleong · #10 12-13-2005, 11:01 AM

I changed my mind. I could go either way.

Krishan