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Old 12-06-2005, 08:14 PM
Spicymoose Spicymoose is offline
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Default Bleh

Initial preflop raiser was something like 50/10. Main villain in this hand is 22/18/8.15 after 450 hands.

I felt pretty bad about this hand.

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Preflop: Hero is CO with 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]. Hero posts a blind of $10.
UTG calls, <font color="#CC3333">MP raises</font>, Hero (poster) calls, <font color="#CC3333">Button 3-bets</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, BB calls, UTG folds, MP calls, Hero calls.

Flop: (13.50 SB) 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
BB checks, MP checks, Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">Button bets</font>, BB folds, MP folds, Hero calls.

Turn: (7.75 BB) T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">Button bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button 3-bets</font>, Hero calls.

River: (13.75 BB) Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">Button bets</font>, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 15.75 BB
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Old 12-06-2005, 08:22 PM
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Default Re: Bleh

that turn c/r is very bad. he's never folding there.

bet/call the river
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Old 12-06-2005, 08:24 PM
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Default Re: Bleh

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I felt pretty bad about this hand.

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I don't blame you. Fold the flop.
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Old 12-06-2005, 08:32 PM
Spicymoose Spicymoose is offline
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Default Re: Bleh

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I felt pretty bad about this hand.

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I don't blame you. Fold the flop.

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I wanted to, but I just couldn't getting 14.5:1 closing the action. I needed 3 outs, which I am not sure if I have, but thought I might.
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Old 12-06-2005, 08:44 PM
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The pot is too big too fold anywhere except perhaps after the turn 3-bet. I put us on 8% equity there getting 12.75:1. But its still a call.

This is my hand range after the turn 3-bet: AA,4 combos of KK,3 combos of QQ,KQs,1 combo of AJs,JJ-99.

On the flop I have him on AA-99,KQs,AJs+,AQ+ with no hand discounted. Perhaps I should have discounted AJs,99,KQs somewhat but its still an extremely clear call.

I am uncertain about the CR on the turn since its not just an isolation preflop. This guy has a premium hand and I doubt he folds it since every hand he has is either a monster or drawing live(AQ,AK).
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Old 12-06-2005, 09:21 PM
ArturiusX ArturiusX is offline
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Default Re: Bleh

Flop peels ok, but the turn was bodged, just check-call. You're rarely pushing a hand off here.
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Old 12-06-2005, 09:22 PM
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Default Re: Bleh

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I felt pretty bad about this hand.

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I don't blame you. Fold the flop.

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I wanted to, but I just couldn't getting 14.5:1 closing the action. I needed 3 outs, which I am not sure if I have, but thought I might.

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I never looked at the size of the pot. I'm not sure why. It didn't register that the pot was as large as it is. Peeling the flop is probably correct.

Not so sure about your turn CR. I just don't see it.
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Old 12-06-2005, 09:26 PM
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Default Re: Bleh

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I felt pretty bad about this hand.

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I don't blame you. Fold the flop.

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Old 12-06-2005, 09:26 PM
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Default Re: Bleh

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I felt pretty bad about this hand.

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I don't blame you. Fold the flop.

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I wanted to, but I just couldn't getting 14.5:1 closing the action. I needed 3 outs, which I am not sure if I have, but thought I might.

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I never looked at the size of the pot. I'm not sure why. It didn't register that the pot was as large as it is. Peeling the flop is probably correct.

Not so sure about your turn CR. I just don't see it.

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Yeah, my biggest problem is that I don't really hand read as much as I should. I am capable of it, I just somehow manage to not do this critical thing. I just see "big pot, agressive guy, I have a weak straight draw, and can semibluff." If I had been thinking at all, I should have just check/called the turn.
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