Two Plus Two Older Archives  

Go Back   Two Plus Two Older Archives > General Poker Discussion > Poker Theory
FAQ Community Calendar Today's Posts Search

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #11  
Old 12-09-2005, 03:14 PM
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Default Re: HU Theory - outplay vs. force coinflip?

I had originally posted this here, but then moved it when someone suggested to. Basically my point is not what size of blinds to start doing this or whether you can outplay your opponent to the tune of 90% (although when I get heads-up against a mega-weaktight player it sure feels like it). I just use those as examples, and right now I'm assuming the theories to be valid. So my point is more philosophical than practical:

<snip from STT forum>
let's say Hellmuth and Matusow are both aware of this optimal strategy, but they also both know that if either one starts using it, the game becomes a coinflip. And further, if one of them starts using it, the other one has to. However with both of their egos, they wouldn't ever be able to accept that their opponent was playing "optimally" (IE - as well as them) and therefore wouldn't want to push it to a coinflip, as each would still think he has an obvious skill edge over the other. You see what I'm saying? I think it makes an interesting decision in either player's mind.

Again, I'm just reiterating what's been asserted here: that there is an "optimal" strategy which when pursued by both sides turns the game into a coinflip, and a "better" strategy which will give you a better chance to win if you're opponent is not playing "optimally". I'm not debating whether either of those is true for this post. I'm just saying that if they are, I think it creates an interesting conundrum.
</snip>
Reply With Quote
  #12  
Old 12-09-2005, 03:33 PM
WhiteWolf WhiteWolf is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Posts: 87
Default Re: HU Theory - outplay vs. force coinflip?

[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
I think the key part is this:
[ QUOTE ]
(when the blinds are > X% of your stack)

[/ QUOTE ]
Once your stack shrinks so a significant part of it goes in just to see a flop, your ability to outplay someone post flop goes way down. You won't be able to get that 90% edge.

[/ QUOTE ]

A 90% edge? Is he disconnected or something?

[/ QUOTE ]

lol, yea i agree with soko, even if you are way better than your opponent, your edge isn't that high. At best it can be at like 60-75% in the long run.

[/ QUOTE ]

90% sounds high to me as well, but that was the OP's number.
Reply With Quote
Reply


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 01:45 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions Inc.