Unusual PF play.

Apathy · #1 09-24-2005, 02:21 AM

Lost the HH.
blinds 15/30
MP limps (1.3k) I limp with 99 and 900 chips, co limps (1k), button minraises to 60 (1k), BB calls (700), MP calls....

Apathy Pushes.

Do other people make this sort of play consistantly? I would often tend to take a flop here.

syka16 · #2 09-24-2005, 03:07 AM

do you think that's better than trying for a set?

Apathy · #3 09-24-2005, 03:09 AM

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do you think that's better than trying for a set?

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Well that's what this thread is about. Share your opinion and maybe we can get a discussion going.

pergesu · #4 09-24-2005, 03:12 AM

Wow I did the exact same thing today, but I was in the SB with 99.

I initally limped so that I could hit a set. Then the BB minraised, there were two callers. I could play for a set here, but now there's like 450 in the pot (level 3), which increases my stack by 50%. So I'm happy to try to take it right now after nobody showed real strength, plus I have a hand that figures to rate well when called.

I think that's exactly what you did here. Limped for a set, then after the min-raise, the pot increases your stack by ~200, or 22%, so it's worth trying to take.

I would like it better at the next level, when the pot is even bigger, but I like it a lot here too.

syka16 · #5 09-24-2005, 03:33 AM

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do you think that's better than trying for a set?

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Well that's what this thread is about. Share your opinion and maybe we can get a discussion going.

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suppose these #s are correct.

you push 99 everyone folds + EV210
you push and are called by 88, 99, TT, JJ AQ+ (win 50.5%) +EV65

I guess you're called 20% and you steal 80%... dunno.

If so, +EV180 is the total from the move... I don't know if a set is higher EV... but that looks pretty good if my #s are correct

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viennagreen · #6 09-24-2005, 03:40 AM

i did the same thing with 99 in a 109 today from the BB... got called by initial min-raiser holding AQo.. i lost to a AQ on the flop

it's something that i think works better during the week, rather than on weekend nights though--- not that i mind terribly, getting called by someone with overs, but just taking the pot down is better.

applejuicekid · #7 09-24-2005, 04:04 AM

Yes, I do this sometimes.

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t50 (7 handed) converter

Hero (t840)
Button (t3430)
SB (t1660)
BB (t1020)
UTG (t1490)
MP1 (t220)
MP2 (t1340)

Preflop: Hero is CO with T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
UTG calls t50, 2 folds, Hero calls t50, Button raises to t100, 1 fold, BB calls t50, UTG calls t50, Hero raises to t840 (All-In), Button calls t740, BB folds, UTG folds.

Flop: (t1905) K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players, 1 all-in)

Turn: (t1905) 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players, 1 all-in)

River: (t1905) 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players, 1 all-in)

Final Pot: t1905

microbet · #8 09-24-2005, 04:06 AM

Tough call. Very similar thing happened with 99 to me while I was thinking about it, so I pushed. The raiser and caller folded, one saying AJ.

It's always tempting, but I don't usually do it.

Apathy · #9 09-24-2005, 04:07 AM

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I would like it better at the next level, when the pot is even bigger, but I like it a lot here too.

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Don't you think it is much less likely anyone has a strong hand at this blind level with the given action rather then at 25/50 with the same action and stack sizes?

microbet · #10 09-24-2005, 04:10 AM

Dammit, 99 in a close call situation again. Pushed and it worked. Whew. I have to stop reading while I play.