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Old 09-18-2005, 10:48 AM
Mr_J Mr_J is offline
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Default Re: Low limit ring games more profitable than STTs?

"You'd have to be a very competant sng player with a lot of multi-tabling experience for this to occur."

Not at all. If you mean that's a short BR, you'll obviously add profits to it. If you mean hitting 20% 8tabling $11s then I disagree. You might think it's hard, I don't. I guess it depends on the person.

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"Most people just aren't capable of doing this no matter how easy it may seem to some people."

I agree. When it comes to gambling, most people seem to turn their stupidity switch on. Just because most people can't do it doesn't mean it's difficult. I know that sounds weird but it's not like sngs are hard to beat.
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Old 09-18-2005, 10:53 AM
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I have been a SNG grinder for a year, with the occasional cash game play. Lately I've devoted myself 90% to NL cash games on Empire and I'm shocked how much more $ I am making. My hourly rate is significantly higher over the last month than I ever made on SNGs. I started out just nut peddling 50 and 100 NL, and I have played up to 400 NL and there are often more maniacs and fish there than even the low levels. If you have good table selection skills, I really believe NL ring games, especially six max, are far more profitable than SNGs for me. I find them more entertaining as well, as SNGs have become so instinctive and methodical to me that they are more work than fun. I still love live tourny play, but online I think I am headed towards becoming a six max - NL specialist.

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What level of SnG's were you playing?

Because I just play $22's now, and I think money comes easier than at $3/$6 limit. Of course, if I'd play $1000NL I'd make more there (if I'm that good), but I don't play that high.
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Old 09-18-2005, 11:30 AM
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I've read that at the lowest limit STT's, a 30% ROI would be reasonable for a good player, and that a STT might take an hour.

[/ QUOTE ]Two things: at the lowest limit SNGs you can probably do better than 30% ROI and they only take an hour if you win (or show) -- when you are out of the money they won't take as long, so you might figure 20-30 minutes for an average SNG.
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Old 09-18-2005, 12:15 PM
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Default Re: Low limit ring games more profitable than STTs?

I would say less than 5% of low level SNG players could achieve greater than 30% ROI. That is absolutely crushing the game.
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Old 09-18-2005, 12:17 PM
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Default Re: Low limit ring games more profitable than STTs?

I played 10s and 20s for a long time, now I have moved up to the 50s. Ive made a lot more money 4 tabling 100 NL than 4 tabling 22s with a 20% ROI. Thats just me though, and it might not stand true for the long long run.
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Old 09-18-2005, 12:40 PM
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I would say less than 5% of low level SNG players could achieve greater than 30% ROI.

[/ QUOTE ]But, what % of 2+2 forum readers could beat 30%?
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Old 09-18-2005, 12:54 PM
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Default Re: Low limit ring games more profitable than STTs?

Im not sure , but there is a huge difference between 20 and 30 percent ROI. That's all Im saying. Any decent player can get 20% at low leves, 30% you have to be doing something above and beyond just tight early / push late
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Old 09-18-2005, 01:02 PM
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Default Re: Low limit ring games more profitable than STTs?

I think you have to better than decent to get 20% ROI at the 11s, 22s and 33s (ie, lower levels).
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Old 09-18-2005, 02:25 PM
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I would say less than 5% of low level SNG players could achieve greater than 30% ROI.

[/ QUOTE ]But, what % of 2+2 forum readers could beat 30%?

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less than 5%
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Old 09-18-2005, 02:27 PM
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Default Re: Low limit ring games more profitable than STTs?

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I would say less than 5% of low level SNG players could achieve greater than 30% ROI.

[/ QUOTE ]But, what % of 2+2 forum readers could beat 30%?

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not near as many as you think. the difference between 20% and 30% is about 102098520980953 times bigger than the difference between 10% and 20%. holla
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