$33, passing up an edge by folding AK

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This AK thing is bugging me. Not your hand, just AK in general. I read Matt Matros' about pushing with AK article recently and it made mathematical sense. Seems like a dangerous strategy to me but it is so logical that it annoys me. One day I'll grow some balls and give the strategy a go.

[/ QUOTE ]i have an edge when the blinds become a certain size, which doesn't really apply in a MTT. thats why i dont need to take this.

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Fair enough.

[gp?]

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Pushing, I am almost surely a coinflip.

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i don't know where you people get this stuff.

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what does he raise 9bb with on level 1?

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not only are you basically assuming you have no folding equity against medium pairs, you're assuming that he can only have pairs.

he raised to 100, which is about 7x bb, at party, and he did it behind a limper.

lastly, you aren't giving up ev when you avoid getting all your money in with a worst hand.

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what do you recommend the best play is?

[citanul]

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Pushing, I am almost surely a coinflip.

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i don't know where you people get this stuff.

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what does he raise 9bb with on level 1? some people do this with AA KK, which just makes my hand even worse against this range.

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well, thanks for the edit.

now that you're saying he could have AA and KK if he's an average party player, dosen't that even more damage the idea that you're almost surely a coinflip?

[citanul]

i'm not saying folding is wrong, i'm saying your rationale sucks.

[Hornacek]

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folding is fine here.

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i edited that post within a minute of making it, btw.
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i'm not saying folding is wrong, i'm saying your rationale sucks.

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then what is a good rationale for folding it? my hand isn't a favorite against his range, i should preserve chips until i have think i have a bigger edge. what else?

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you said you were avoiding a coinflip, not avoiding getting all your chips in bad.

there's a difference.

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also, i'm wondering what the point of hte post in the first place was, i mean all you said was "sometimes it's ok to fold AK preflop" basically, and well, everyone knows that.

c

[Hornacek]

Scoreboard update:

Citanul 56264 - gp? 0

[Xhad]

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So, if you push and are called you're most likely spliting the pot or a coinflip and you don't really want to be flipping coins this early.

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This seems exactly backwards to me. I'd rather take a 50/50 on either being set until round 4, or being out and loading up another tourney, than play 3 or 4 rounds, and then try to double up or lose.