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Old 11-28-2005, 11:28 PM
Mathieu Mathieu is offline
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Default Re: slowplay QQ on QJ3r?

Bet this flop because you are likely to get called by weaker hands. This is not a ragged flop. Any one with two cards greater than T will most likely call you. Why would you want to give them a free card. Players are usually way looser on the flop so why would you want to pass on this profitable opportunity?

Some players are bad enough to call you with 77 or A9 here. But as Ed Miller would say: "They can't call if you don't bet!"
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Old 11-29-2005, 03:46 AM
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Default Re: slowplay QQ on QJ3r?

I only consider slowplaying flopped straight and royal flushes, and even then some jack@ss is going to draw out on you.
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Old 11-29-2005, 01:04 PM
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I only consider slowplaying flopped straight and royal flushes, and even then some jack@ss is going to draw out on you.

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Tilt factor on donk suck-outs to a beautiful set? Pretty donkin' HIGH. Bet, bet, BET
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Old 11-29-2005, 04:34 AM
Jake (The Snake) Jake (The Snake) is offline
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Default Re: slowplay QQ on QJ3r?

There are absolutely times to slowplays sets.

This is absolutely not the time.

You raised preflop. People expect you to bet. They won't believe you have QQ. They will think you have AK. Now they raise. Now you reraise. Now you make money.

Note also that if you always bet (after raising preflop) when you miss or when your hand is vulnerable, but always check your monsters, people will pick up on that. Any thinking opponent will think your flop check is pretty fishy considering the board and that you raised preflop.
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Old 11-29-2005, 04:58 AM
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ouch, this is pretty bad

lead the flop already
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Old 11-29-2005, 10:59 AM
Solami17 Solami17 is offline
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Default Re: slowplay QQ on QJ3r?

You HAVE to bet here.

At these limits, pots will grow. Players at these limits always chase their backdoors if they can do it cheaply (sometimes even if it expensive)
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Old 11-29-2005, 11:15 AM
davelin davelin is offline
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Default Re: slowplay QQ on QJ3r?

IV. Thou shall not slowplay the flop when thou is the only one that showed aggression pre-flop.
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Old 11-29-2005, 06:54 PM
W. Deranged W. Deranged is offline
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Default Re: slowplay QQ on QJ3r?

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There are absolutely times to slowplays sets.

This is absolutely not the time.

You raised preflop. People expect you to bet. They won't believe you have QQ. They will think you have AK. Now they raise. Now you reraise. Now you make money.



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Jake is smart. Listen to him. When you are the last aggressor pre-flop and you hit a monster, that is exactly the time you shouldn't slowplay. In fact, slowplaying and waking up on the turn often kills all your action.

And, honestly, slow-playing is usually lame. When I'm at a table where someone makes a bad slowplay and costs themselves a lot of money, it makes me feel dirty and embarassed. Slowplaying too much is the acne of poker adolescence.
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Old 11-29-2005, 05:39 AM
deepsquat deepsquat is offline
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Default Re: slowplay QQ on QJ3r?

Awful. Bet the flop 40000000% of the time. You will get action.
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Old 11-29-2005, 10:58 AM
2+2 Junkie 2+2 Junkie is offline
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Grunching:
I have given up slowplaying at these limits. How many times do you have a hand that is pretty good (TPTK for instance) and you bet to the river and the chumps all call and suckout on you? A lot, in my experience. So, they will call, just bet and let them call. I seem to get bigger pots when I jut bet and occasionally you will get someone who tries a raise, and you go to war with people in the middle. Keep it simple, just bet.
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