Shock and Awe in Miami

ripdog · #1 11-30-2005, 04:41 PM

More fearmongering. I wonder if Seattleites would put up with this garbage. My gut says no.

Miami police take new tack against terror

elwoodblues · #2 11-30-2005, 04:45 PM

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We want that shock. We want that awe

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We want people to not want to spend time downtown.

TomCollins · #3 11-30-2005, 04:51 PM

Where are your papers? Where are your papers!

canis582 · #4 11-30-2005, 04:51 PM

Terrorism: an excuse to have a police state.

But Canis, people want to be safe.

Uncle Ben Franklin says 'if you give up freedom for safety, you deserve neither.'

ripdog · #5 11-30-2005, 05:00 PM

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Awesome!

BluffTHIS! · #6 12-01-2005, 03:23 AM

Gang drug war violence is the same as terrorism. And it is right to instill fear of it as well as the threat of external source terrorism. And although we should not allow permanent curbs on our liberties to fight same, we can and should be willing to submit to occasional such measures for limited periods.

Cyrus · #7 12-01-2005, 04:27 AM

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Although we should not allow permanent curbs on our liberties to fight same, we can and should be willing to submit to occasional such measures for limited periods.

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There are so many things wrong with this approach to the problem of civil liberties' erosion in the States, that I have no wish to even try to refute it. I'd lose the will to live.

Good luck with defining the "limited" and checking the "temporary".

nicky g · #8 12-01-2005, 05:22 AM

"Gang drug war violence is the same as terrorism. "

You seem to think that every form of violence you disapprove of is terrorism. Your world must be one big blob of homogenous gloop.

Kurn, son of Mogh · #9 12-01-2005, 10:02 AM

Gang drug war violence is the same as terrorism.

No. Gang drug war violence is directed at each other. Terrorism is directed at innocent non-combatants.

And it is right to instill fear

I believe this point was central to Lenin's philosophy.

And although we should not allow permanent curbs on our liberties to fight same, we can and should be willing to submit to occasional such measures for limited periods.

ROFLMAO. When does government *ever* give up power. Simple case in point. The income tax was designed to be a temporary tax of no more than 3% designed to raise funds for a specific purpose. To quote Tony Soprano "You can't put sh*t back in a donkey."

BluffTHIS! · #10 12-01-2005, 08:31 PM

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Gang drug war violence is the same as terrorism.
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No. Gang drug war violence is directed at each other. Terrorism is directed at innocent non-combatants.

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Yea, tough luck for all the innocent 3rd parties and law enfocement officers and witnesses who get killed as a result. I'm sure it's very comforting to their families to know it's not really a form of terrorism according to some.