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Old 01-11-2005, 06:49 PM
Felix_Nietsche Felix_Nietsche is offline
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Default Arrogance?

I plead guilty.....
I'm past the point of whether nations like or dislike the USA. It is nice to find other nations who like the USA but I do not stake the success of the USA on how many countries like us. Most of the animosity seems to come from the foreign policy of the USA. Specifically: Israel and Iraq.

With regard to Israel, it is more moral to support a civilized society than a society that believes killing civilians in justified. Easy choice... The Palestinains had a country in 1948 but they invaded Israel and lost their country... Boo Hoo Hoo... Then their Palestinian "allies" chose to keep a good chunk of Palestian terrority for themselves. But these peace-loving people attack Israel again and lost that land as well....

With regard to Iraq, they(Iraq) violated the cease fire and the USA was justifed to attack on this reason alone. Treaties are useless if one side will not abide by the conditions. As a bonus, we took out a dictator who financial supported terrorism and who I SUSPECT had loose ties to al-qaida at the minimum..... The crime was waiting over a decade to enforce the cease fire....

I've been to hockey games where the US fans boo'd the Canadien national anthem and I was embarassed. I think the Canadien anthem is one of the better national anthems and I use to know all the words (to the 1st verse only)...

Most of the world seems to think the UN should make all international decisions and when the US decides to go a different way, ill will is created. For those who bow at the UN alter, it may be a surprie that the USA is a sovereign nation govern by US laws. With the exception of treaties, the UN nor any other nation has a right to tell the US what they should do.
If this makes Americans "arrogant", then I plead guilty...
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Old 01-11-2005, 07:43 PM
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Default Re: Arrogance?

Unfortunately, the "US" has signed many treaties over the past few decades with the UN...
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Old 01-11-2005, 08:26 PM
lastchance lastchance is offline
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Default Re: Arrogance?

You can only have that viewpoint when you can effectively conquer and occupy the entire world to your benefit.

When other countries have nukes, you are obligated to listen to what they have to say, and of course, they are obligated to listen to what you have to say, and it is pareto-optimal to work out an agreement.
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Old 01-11-2005, 08:57 PM
Mayhap Mayhap is offline
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Default Re: American Bastard

Sometime I feel like I just opened up a can o duh.
/M
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Old 01-12-2005, 03:08 PM
TorontoCFE TorontoCFE is offline
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Default Re: American Bastard

"And for your proclamation that the U.S. didn't "get their head out of the sand" and join Canadian forces in WWII until two years after the Canucks, well, let me remind you that the U.S. was a little busy fighting the Japanese in the Pacific. "

Let's see - the Pacific war began for the US after Pearl Harbor (since they weren't involved in the Chinese campaigns), which occured in 1941.

Most of the world was fighting the Nazis starting in 1939.
Maybe the European thing could have been wrapped up before Pearl Harbor with more help.

But let's not fight over that.
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