What could Dannenman have put Hachem on in the last hand?

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What could Dannenman have put Hachem on in the last hand?

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7-3 offsuit maybe? Was there any betting preflop? If there wasn't, I don't see how it's impossible to put him on something better then top pair on a coordinated low board with no preflop action

Dannemman had raised pre-flop...so it is tough to put Hachem on 7-3 based him calling a pre-flop raise

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The thing about heads up, and those giant chip stacks is that it's really hard to say "he's not calling with 73o" there.

I think Dannenman can play that hand and not get all in, but given by badly Hachem had him outchipped, it's hard to find too much fault in his play, especially given all of other circumstances.

I think ESPN did a really bad job of showing just how long this took and the toll that it would have put on the players.

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He has to double up sometime. What the hell is he supposed to wait for? I would have a hard time laying that down myself.

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Ditto for me. Once I saw that hand last night I couldn't understand what the big stink was about.

I also totally changed my mind about Dannenman between the first episode and the last. I think he had a great attitude and played really, really well considering his experience level.

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Dannemann lost this hand on the flop. His only chance to get away from this hand was to fold after he got raised $1 million. I'm not saying this is a slam dunk fold with a straight draw and overcard but once he turned the A, there was not much chance he was folding.

But that being said, he didn't have to go broke on the hand. Sometimes, it's ok to be a calling station. Hachem is going to try and milk his straight and probably not go all-in on the River, so why not just call instead of raising and not go broke.

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Dannemman had raised pre-flop...so it is tough to put Hachem on 7-3 based him calling a pre-flop raise

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I agree that it would have been hard to put him on that kind of hand before the flop, but with the action on the flop and turn from Hachem, I can't imagine putting Hachem on any reasonable hand that doesn't have Dannenman beat.

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But that being said, he didn't have to go broke on the hand. Sometimes, it's ok to be a calling station. Hachem is going to try and milk his straight and probably not go all-in on the River, so why not just call instead of raising and not go broke.

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Hachem went all-in on the turn, Danneman called.

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Hand 232 - Steve Dannenmann has the button, he raises to $700,000, and Hachem calls. The flop comes 6h-5d-4d, Hachem checks, Dannenmann bets $700,000, Hachem raises to $1,700,000, and Dannenmann calls. The turn card is the As, Hachem bets $2,000,000, and Dannenmann slowly raises to $5,000,000, Hachem reraises all in, and Dannenmann immediately calls. Hachem shows 7c-3s (seven-high straight), while Dannenman has Ad-3c (top pair). Dannenmann needs to catch a seven on the river to chop the pot with equal straights.

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I think the big stack heads up makes the same play on the turn with K6, 76, 75, or even T7. He's trying to push Dannenman out of what has become a huge pot. It's headsup, and either opponent can be bluffing with middle pair, or nothing.

If Dannenman had just called the turn, he probably doesn't face an allin on the river. But he also doesn't earn as much from middle pair and straight draws.

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Dannemman had raised pre-flop...so it is tough to put Hachem on 7-3 based him calling a pre-flop raise

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I agree that it would have been hard to put him on that kind of hand before the flop, but with the action on the flop and turn from Hachem, I can't imagine putting Hachem on any reasonable hand that doesn't have Dannenman beat.

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From Danneman's perspective, I think 7,8 was a definite possiblity, which nullifies his straight draw.

Stacks: Hachem $39.99 million
Dannenmann $16.35 million

Blinds: $150,000/$300,000 Ante: $50,000

Dannenmann raised to $700,000 and Hachem called. The flop came 4d-5d-6h. Hachem checked and Dannenman bet $700,000, Hachem re-raised to $1,700,000 and Dannenman called. The turn was the As. Hachem bet $2,000,000 and Dannenman raised to $5,000,000. Hachem went all-in and Dannenman instantly called. Hachem held the 7c-3s and Dannenman the Ad-3c. Hachem had flopped a straight and Dannenman was drawing to a tie with one of the 3 remaining sevens on the river. The river was the 4c.

So Dannenman still had $16.35 million going into this hand, and Hachem only had to call another $350,000 to see the flop. As I said, I agree that it's impossible to put Hachem on 7-3o going into the flop, but when Hachem check-raised Dannenman's $700,000 bet on the flop to $1.7 million I would've been immediately worried about a set. Then the ace hits the turn and Hachem doesn't care and bets out $2 million. I seriously consider getting away from the hand there, because at the very least I put Hachem on a better ace, and I still suspect a set. Maybe there's a chance that Hachem doesn't have it though, I suppose, so Dannenman goes big over the top and raises to $5 million to find out.

After this raise if Dannenman's ace is good I can't imagine Hachem doing what he does next--he goes all-in which of course would put Dannenman all in! At this point by my count Dannenman has $7.4 million in the pot. That means he has approximately $7 million left. Obviously he's way behind in the chip count and likely to lose the tournament, but of course he still has 7 million chips and a chair. The problem with calling the all-in though and risking your entire tournament on this hand at this point is that I just see *no way* that Dannenman can think he has the best hand.

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The problem with calling the all-in though and risking your entire tournament on this hand at this point is that I just see *no way* that Dannenman can think he has the best hand.

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I disagree. Hachem plays 88,99 the same way. Hachem is unlikly to have a set or the top end of the straight since he would likely slow play it until the turn. There are many hands that Dannenman is ahead of that Hachem plays this way. And he still has a great redraw against every hand that beats him except for a made straight.

You are forgetting the essential part of this hand, they are "heads up". The hands a big stack will be aggressive with in this context are much weaker than usual. Unfortunately you know Hachem's hand, so it's difficult to get past the actual results, but if you didn't know his hand you'd put him on the following.

A pair, a great draw, or better. That's a fricken wide range of hands.