Donk-Farm'in

#1 10-30-2005, 07:01 AM

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villain is a really bad lag with stats of 35/25/2. He donks preflop agressors constantly with even weak-draws or made hands like bottom pair. He doesnt usually donk 2 streets in a row though.

On the turn, I was planning to check behind, but things got spicy.

Also, this isnt standard play with low pp's at all for me.

Party Poker 3/6 Hold'em (6 max, 6 handed) pokerhand.org hand converter

Preflop: Hero is CO with 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
2 folds, Hero raises, 2 folds, BB calls.

Flop: (4.33 SB) 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players)
BB bets, Hero raises, BB calls.

Turn: (4.16 BB) 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)
BB bets, Hero raises, BB calls.

River: (8.16 BB) T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players)
BB bets, Hero raises, BB calls.

Final Pot: 12.16 BB

#2 10-30-2005, 07:06 AM

Preflop and flop are very questionable. Other streets are fine.

Off topic....

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He donks preflop agressors constantly with even weak-draws or made hands like bottom pair.

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When I was growing up in poker, "made hand" always meant a 5 card hand (straight or better), but I've heard a pair referred to as a made hand several times this week. When did this transition occur?

Stefan_K · #3 10-30-2005, 07:07 AM

the flop is close i think i tend to fold this often, the other streets i play the same

#4 10-30-2005, 07:08 AM

I dont know, I just picked it up somewhere I think. I consider a "made hand" in hold'em to be something like a pair or a straight.

For the flop, I fold here 90% of the time.

Also, you dont open raise PP's from CO?

#5 10-30-2005, 07:11 AM

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Also, you dont open raise PP's from CO?

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33 is marginal.

I'm 44+ from CO and 33+ from the button.

#6 10-30-2005, 07:14 AM

Is there really that much of a difference between the two in practice? I mean, for the most part, nearly everything that calls you wins if they hit a pair either way, right?

mex78753 · #7 10-30-2005, 07:16 AM

I believe unless you have very good table image and people fold to you regularly, the raise on the flop is bad. You should just let it go and fold.

You're a dog to almost half the deck (74o would be a better hand on this flop) and at 5/10 you're rarely outplaying an opponent into laying down a pair much less a straight if it hits.

MoDOH · #8 10-30-2005, 07:38 AM

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33 is marginal.

I'm 44+ from CO and 33+ from the button.

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huh? what´s the difference? I put 22-55 in the same category...

#9 10-30-2005, 07:54 AM

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33 is marginal.

I'm 44+ from CO and 33+ from the button.

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huh? what´s the difference? I put 22-55 in the same category...

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Don't do that. They aren't in the same category.

Ask around. Find people with 200K+ hands in PokerTracker and you will see there is more than a slight difference between 22 and 33, 33 and 44, 44 and 55. Also check pokerroom's EV stats.

MoDOH · #10 10-30-2005, 08:00 AM

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Ask around. Find people with 200K+ hands in PokerTracker and you will see there is more than a slight difference between 22 and 33, 33 and 44, 44 and 55. Also check pokerroom's EV stats.

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What i meant was that if you play in a game were raising 33 preflop from the CO isn´t correct then raising 44 or 55 for that matter sure as **** can´t be correct...