I guess this was right :)

[The Truth]

Opponent is tight passive

Party Poker 15/30 Hold'em (10 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is BB with 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
UTG calls, <font color="#666666">6 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Hero calls, UTG calls.

Flop: (6.66 SB) 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
Hero checks, UTG checks, <font color="#CC3333">Button bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, UTG folds, <font color="#CC3333">Button 3-bets</font>, Hero calls.

Turn: (6.33 BB) A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">Button bets</font>, Hero folds.

Final Pot: 7.33 BB

[Fianchetto]

Yeah, by the turn I don't see what reasonable hand you could be ahead of. Good fold.

[Nightwish]

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Yeah, by the turn I don't see what reasonable hand you could be ahead of. Good fold.

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A better fold would have been preflop out of position vs a tight passive opponent's raise with only one other player in there.

[James282]

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Yeah, by the turn I don't see what reasonable hand you could be ahead of. Good fold.

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A better fold would have been preflop out of position vs a tight passive opponent's raise with only one other player in there.

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Folding preflop is very bad IMO.
-James

[Guruman]

why so bad?

[stankphish]

Because hes in the BB with medium suited connectors and its only one bet to see the flop.

[Nightwish]

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Yeah, by the turn I don't see what reasonable hand you could be ahead of. Good fold.

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A better fold would have been preflop out of position vs a tight passive opponent's raise with only one other player in there.

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Folding preflop is very bad IMO.


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Do you really think it's "very bad"? Remember, this is not a default Party LAG we're talking about.

[rmarotti]

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Yeah, by the turn I don't see what reasonable hand you could be ahead of. Good fold.

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A better fold would have been preflop out of position vs a tight passive opponent's raise with only one other player in there.

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Folding preflop is very bad IMO.


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Do you really think it's "very bad"? Remember, this is not a default Party LAG we're talking about.

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Doesn't matter. This guy's raising range here is broad regardless of his skill level. He's trying to isolate a probably weak openlimper and this hand plays fine 3-way as long as you got the postflop skills, which OP does.

[James282]

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Yeah, by the turn I don't see what reasonable hand you could be ahead of. Good fold.

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A better fold would have been preflop out of position vs a tight passive opponent's raise with only one other player in there.

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Folding preflop is very bad IMO.


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Do you really think it's "very bad"? Remember, this is not a default Party LAG we're talking about.

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Js Tc 176156 12.85 1192462 86.99 2136 0.16 0.129
Ac Ad 925224 67.50 443394 32.35 2136 0.16 0.675
9h 8h 267238 19.50 1101380 80.35 2136 0.16 0.195

Js Tc 385059 28.09 982532 71.68 3163 0.23 0.282
Kc Ad 598310 43.65 769281 56.12 3163 0.23 0.437
9h 8h 384222 28.03 983369 71.74 3163 0.23 0.281

Getting 5.7:1 with a button who plays poorly(tight-passive) we should be seeing every flop. We will almost always know where we stand postflop, and even if we didn't play better than him, we have more than enough hot-cold equity to make this work postflop. Folding assumes that by calling we will lose more than .5 BB/hand when we call. This simply can not be the case.
-James

[PennDisc]

I don't think this is a fold from the BB even if he's heads up against the button raise.