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Old 10-26-2005, 11:54 PM
Russ McGinley Russ McGinley is offline
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Default Re: \"Official\" Live at the Bike thread (10/26) (50/100 NL)

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I would definitely want Shirley in my game but I'd definately buy her many drinks and use my best pick-up lines and make fun of Bart a lot

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Old 10-26-2005, 11:57 PM
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It's standard in whatever cardroom allows it. If you win twice, you get 2/3rds of the pot. Reduced variance but doesn't change the odds(only very very slightly as they don't reshuffle)
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Old 10-26-2005, 11:58 PM
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Old 10-27-2005, 12:00 AM
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It's standard in whatever cardroom allows it. If you win twice, you get 2/3rds of the pot. Reduced variance but doesn't change the odds(only very very slightly as they don't reshuffle)

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It does not change the odds (EV) at all, whether they re-shuffle or not, provided of course that they decide beforehand whether to re-shuffle.
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Old 10-27-2005, 12:03 AM
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Default Re: \"Official\" Live at the Bike thread (10/26) (50/100 NL)

What time is that Cine-Space event, and where can I get more information about it?

Thanks!
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Old 10-27-2005, 12:05 AM
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Default Re: \"Official\" Live at the Bike thread (10/26) (50/100 NL)

Tomorrow's event is at Cinespace at starting at 7:00. There is a $3 entry fee and $25 shootouts will be held throughout the night. Thanks for watching tonight.

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Old 10-27-2005, 12:18 AM
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Default Re: \"Official\" Live at the Bike thread (10/26) (50/100 NL)

Thanks Bart
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Old 10-27-2005, 12:36 AM
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It's standard in whatever cardroom allows it. If you win twice, you get 2/3rds of the pot. Reduced variance but doesn't change the odds(only very very slightly as they don't reshuffle)

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It does not change the odds (EV) at all, whether they re-shuffle or not, provided of course that they decide beforehand whether to re-shuffle.

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Uh this is wrong? Lets say nut flush draw vs. top pair on the flop decide to run it 3 times. Flush draw is 2 to 1 dog and hits his suit on the turn and river. No shuffle. He now has 2 less flush cards when they run it the 2nd and 3rd.

It varies on edge, sometimes people will flip their cards over say a pair with flush draw and you have a set. Well now you know that you have 1 less card that pairs the board. It's small edges but it's something you always consider
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Old 10-27-2005, 12:47 AM
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It's standard in whatever cardroom allows it. If you win twice, you get 2/3rds of the pot. Reduced variance but doesn't change the odds(only very very slightly as they don't reshuffle)

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It does not change the odds (EV) at all, whether they re-shuffle or not, provided of course that they decide beforehand whether to re-shuffle.

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Uh this is wrong? Lets say nut flush draw vs. top pair on the flop decide to run it 3 times. Flush draw is 2 to 1 dog and hits his suit on the turn and river. No shuffle. He now has 2 less flush cards when they run it the 2nd and 3rd.

It varies on edge, sometimes people will flip their cards over say a pair with flush draw and you have a set. Well now you know that you have 1 less card that pairs the board. It's small edges but it's something you always consider

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I don't understand your argument, but the fact is, the EV changes not one iota when you run it multiple times with no reshuffle. It's an easy theorem to prove.
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Old 10-27-2005, 12:50 AM
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It's standard in whatever cardroom allows it. If you win twice, you get 2/3rds of the pot. Reduced variance but doesn't change the odds(only very very slightly as they don't reshuffle)

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It does not change the odds (EV) at all, whether they re-shuffle or not, provided of course that they decide beforehand whether to re-shuffle.

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Uh this is wrong? Lets say nut flush draw vs. top pair on the flop decide to run it 3 times. Flush draw is 2 to 1 dog and hits his suit on the turn and river. No shuffle. He now has 2 less flush cards when they run it the 2nd and 3rd.

It varies on edge, sometimes people will flip their cards over say a pair with flush draw and you have a set. Well now you know that you have 1 less card that pairs the board. It's small edges but it's something you always consider

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The flush draw has lower EV on the remaining draws after he has won the first one, but higher EV on the remaining draws after he has lost on the first one. It all balances out exactly.
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