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#21
07-07-2005, 05:08 PM
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Re: Steamboatin cruises back to shallow water.
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So, if we have six limpers we can play about any hand for a raise? We don't have to worry that we are dominated? Just GAMBOOL! [/ QUOTE ] Two words: pot odds. Four more words: Read Small Stakes Holdem. 
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#23
07-07-2005, 05:14 PM
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Re: Steamboatin cruises back to shallow water.
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So, if we have six limpers we can play about any hand for a raise? We don't have to worry that we are dominated? Just GAMBOOL! [/ QUOTE ] I would play my hand exactly the same way the BB did. You were 5-outed, it happens. If you are not calling in this spot preflop, you should read SSH like someone else has mentioned.
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#24
07-07-2005, 05:15 PM
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Re: Steamboatin cruises back to shallow water.
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So, if we have six limpers we can play about any hand for a raise? We don't have to worry that we are dominated? Just GAMBOOL! [/ QUOTE ] Steamboatin its just my opinion. If you don't mind I would like to post this hand in the SS forum as the big blind and see what the responses are.
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#25
07-07-2005, 05:25 PM
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Re: Steamboatin cruises back to shallow water.
I have have read it numerous times and there is no way 5,7 suited is profitable against QQ in the long term.
I ran 10,000 hands through a little program I bought on Ebay. Player 1 QQ Player 2 5s7s 5 other players have random hands. Player 1 wins 3201 times out of 10,000 Player 2 wins 1236 times out of 10,000 The other players win about 1,000 hands each. This assumes nobody folds.
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#26
07-07-2005, 05:27 PM
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Re: Steamboatin cruises back to shallow water.
Absolutely, post away, I am here to learn and anything that helps my game is welcome so don't worry about hurting my feelings.
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#27
07-07-2005, 05:34 PM
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Re: Steamboatin cruises back to shallow water.
They win 1 time in 8, they are getting 10-1 on their $$. Call.
PS I would have been sick too with the QQ
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#28
07-07-2005, 05:36 PM
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Re: Steamboatin cruises back to shallow water.
He doesn't have to win the most hands to show a profit over time. You're still looking at this as his hand vs. your hand. No one is arguing that QQ doesn't dominate 75s. However, 75s is a very fine drawing hand which can be profitibly played when there enough people in the pot. If I were the big blind, you could have showed me your queens and I still would have called. Most of the time I will lose but the few times I win will make up for all the times I lose because of the size of the pot.
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#29
07-07-2005, 05:39 PM
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Re: Steamboatin cruises back to shallow water.
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I have have read it numerous times and there is no way 5,7 suited is profitable against QQ in the long term. [/ QUOTE ] I'm not arguing that it is. But in this hand, where the BB has to call one more bet pre-flop in a pot that already contains 9.5 bets (and that should contain several more once the limpers call), he's foolish not to call. Obviously, if you had raised UTG with your hand and the player with 7s5s was next to act, a call would be foolish.
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#30
07-07-2005, 05:59 PM
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Re: Steamboatin cruises back to shallow water.
He has a $10 blind and has to call $30 more dollars. Then He makes middle pair and has to call another bet to try and hit one of 5 outs. I still think He is a fish.
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