Steamboatin cruises back to shallow water.

[pudley4]

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10-20 with a full kill and it is a kill pot. 6 limpers and I raise on the button with QQ. SB folds BB completes. Flop is 54T rainbow, checked around to me and I bet. Turn is a 5, checked around to me and I bet. BB raises, I call, river is a T, BB checks and I check because I am certain He has a 5. BB drags a giant pot with 57 spades.

Hands like this don't bother me at 3-6, 4-8 or even 5-10 but I think I have a misconception about the quality of play at 10-20 and that amplifies the impact that it has on me.

Also, I have too much ego involved in my game and being down 100 BB against hands like this is really driving me crazy which pretty much insures that I am not playing well.

All this rambling is just getting around to saying that Microbob is right, its back to the kiddie pool for me.

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BB played his hand fine until the river.

[steamboatin]

The blinds stay the same so would you call $30 with 5,7 suited?

[BoogerFace]

I would have played that hand the same. If it's any consolation.

I agree with Midas. You were playing 20/40 disguised as a kill game. Did you buy in for a grand?

I'm in a similar boat as you. I'll play 10/20 only if it's loose/passive. Otherwise I'll kick ass in the kiddie pool.

[Jimmy The Fish]

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I would have played that hand the same. If it's any consolation.

I agree with Midas. You were playing 20/40 disguised as a kill game. Did you buy in for a grand?


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QFA -- you can't expect the BB to throw in a voluntary $30 on Heinz 57.

OTOH, you'd have needed $900 in the pot to get pot odds on the checkraise, if you were certain he had a 5 in his hand. You only had two outs to beat him at that point.

This hand accounts for a loss of 7 BB at 10-20. Frustrating, yes; but as you say, 'variance' covers it. I'd try to write this one off (possibly with the help of some intoxicating substances) and analyze the other 93 BBs for potential leaks.

[toots]

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OTOH, you'd have needed $900 in the pot to get pot odds on the checkraise, if you were certain he had a 5 in his hand. You only had two outs to beat him at that point.


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Yeah, I'd agree with that, but since it's a low-limit table, and judging from what I've seen at LL tables, I'd have to factor in the odds of how likely it is that even though I'm sure he has a 5, I'm wrong. Depending on how likely that is, it might be worth a check/call in the pot that SB was dealing with.

[ShawnHoo]

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The blinds stay the same so would you call $30 with 5,7 suited?

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I'd put in another small bet against 6 limpers and a guy who raised on the button, yes. Whether it's $3, $30, or $300 is irrelevant.

[sean c]

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The blinds stay the same so would you call $30 with 5,7 suited?

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Assuming all limpers call the raise BB is getting 9.8:1 on his call not all that awful really.

[steamboatin]

You guys are going to make me mental. Every book and almost every post syas you have to play tight and now it is okay to call a raise with 5,7 suited.

[sean c]

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You guys are going to make me mental. Every book and almost every post syas you have to play tight and now it is okay to call a raise with 5,7 suited.

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Not trying to make anyone mental here steam. Most of the time it is correct to fold 57s to a raise. When your getting 10:1 on your call its a pretty easy call IMO. BTW I am assuming all six limpers are calling (they should).

[steamboatin]

So, if we have six limpers we can play about any hand for a raise? We don't have to worry that we are dominated? Just GAMBOOL!