200nl turn bluff

2PAUL2 · #1 09-11-2005, 06:22 PM

opponent is 18/5/2.5 after 100 hands. havent seen him do anything particularly good or bad yet.

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (10 handed) pokerhand.org hand converter

UTG+1 ($235.50)
UTG+2 ($228.05)
MP1 ($200)
MP2 ($219.95)
MP3 ($183.65)
CO ($517.80)
Hero ($269.95)
SB ($225.90)
BB ($220.80)
UTG ($202.50)

Preflop: Hero is Button with Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]. SB posts a blind of $1.
7 folds, Hero raises to $8, 1 fold, BB calls $6.

Flop: ($17) K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)
BB checks, Hero checks.

Turn: ($17) 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $14, BB raises to $28, Hero raises to $65

i couldnt see what reasonable hand checked such a drawy board twice and even if he had some sort of weakish A he has to be scared of AK/AA/KK after the 3 bet.

spew?

thanks

paul

pokerjoker · #2 09-11-2005, 07:46 PM

I dont really like it. You said it perfectly. (what kinda a reasonable hand would check the flop). If he is a thinking opponent he knows u are bluffing since you checked the flop.

If he is not thinking opponent (my guess since he minraised the turn) he probably hit 2 pair/trips and decided to slowplay the flop.

IMO what u did isint THAT bad but I would have either checked or folded to his reraise.

djoyce003 · #3 09-11-2005, 07:50 PM

spewery. This really smells like a player that flopped a set and checked it on the flop. I'd guess he also could have made a set of 6's on the turn. I don't think you have any fold equity.

amoeba · #4 09-11-2005, 07:53 PM

why you check the flop really really confuses me.

he doesn't know you have QJ and if he has AK/AA/KK, hes not folding it.

guys who are 18/5 aren't calling your preflop raise with AJ/AT. AQ is even doubtful.

2PAUL2 · #5 09-11-2005, 08:30 PM

thanks for the responses people.looks like verdict is spew. ameoba i cb most of the time but occasionally i check behind with a really thin draw.

he called and the river was the kinda nice looking T [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]

he checks. theres 150 or so in the pot an he has about that left. what do you put him on? i think i gotta bet but how much?

thanks

paul

luckycharms · #6 09-11-2005, 08:33 PM

90.... yes ninety

amoeba · #7 09-11-2005, 08:35 PM

I think I put him all in assuming you haven't shown down a marginal preflop hand in a pot raised by you preflop before.

2PAUL2 · #8 09-12-2005, 06:16 AM

after he called the turn i figured he had something big like 555/666 so i pushed and he folded unfortunately.

he said he had AQ.

thanks for the replies

paul

fuzzbox · #9 09-12-2005, 06:25 AM

Just fold to the check-minraise. I dont find that players who call raises OOP, then check flop and check-minraise turn, fold to further raises. And I dont find that when they do call that they have bad hands.

I fold, but I also probably bet the flop, cos it has all the cards that I would like to represent in it.