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Old 02-18-2005, 11:00 PM
mrwatson23 mrwatson23 is offline
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Default What to ask a world class Pot and No-Limit Player

A friend of mine, who is a good limit hold'em player, is trying to improve his pot and no-limit games (cash games, not tournaments). He has arranged to get some lessons from a well known big bet specialist. If they go well, I would like to get in on them. The problem is that my friend has relatively little experience in these games, so he doesn't have a lot of specific questions to ask. Further, I don't think the big bet player has a lot of experience as a teacher. Does anyone have any recommendations for questions my friend can ask to make the lessons worthwhile? Obviously, my friend will ask about starting hands, how much to bet, etc., but what else should he ask to get the most out of the lessons?
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Old 02-18-2005, 11:11 PM
tbach24 tbach24 is offline
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Default Re: What to ask a world class Pot and No-Limit Player

I am not sure how much a player can teach another without knowing a bit about the game they play in.
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Old 02-19-2005, 12:25 AM
TheWorstPlayer TheWorstPlayer is offline
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Default Re: What to ask a world class Pot and No-Limit Player

If I were in your friend situation, I think I would get the most out of it, because of the lack of experience of the player/teacher, by just watching the teacher play online and having the teacher explain his thought process behind each decision.
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Old 02-19-2005, 12:44 AM
Matt Flynn Matt Flynn is offline
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Default Re: What to ask a world class Pot and No-Limit Player

who is the player giving lessons, and at what price? pm me please if you don't want to tell anyone.

sounds like your friend would be helped by secondary fundamentals. ask about optimal flop and turn bluffing situations. pretty basic (until you get to player-specific reads) but very useful. ask about managing bet sizes. have him/her discuss commitment, pot management, putting opponents to a decision, managing the tension between risk and allowing draws, ask for a dissertation on check-raising, ....

best instructor for most students would be someone of the lederer/ferguson category who plays from a math / logic background. reason is someone with undeveloped reading skills or low reading talent can still learn a tremendous amount and build a framework of understanding. also, harrington's book is a good basic review, or at least the best we currently have. there is so much more.

matt
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Old 02-19-2005, 06:54 AM
PokerFink PokerFink is offline
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Default Re: What to ask a world class Pot and No-Limit Player

If possible, just have your friend watch the teacher play. Either sweat him in a live game, go to his house and watch him play online, or watch his online table and let the teacher explain things through AIM or something.

I have learned a great deal from a good friend of mine through just watching him on stars. He will tell me what he had through AIM and explain certain things. Very helpful.
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Old 02-19-2005, 07:20 AM
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Default Re: What to ask a world class Pot and No-Limit Player

You could start off with the basics such as starting hands and other fundamental concepts. Then from there you could send him hands for his review. I took lessons from someone and that's how they worked. The teacher had some materials together that he provided as an intro, and from there it was up to me to provide direction on what was discussed.
If this guy is available to give lessons, I'd be interested in talking to him (Private message me if you think so).
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