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#41
11-15-2005, 04:48 PM
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Re: A-Rod MVP
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] Please see Huskiez's post. [/ QUOTE ] irrelevant to your statement that arod's been better in the playoffs as a yankee than jeter. most of his career playoff numbers came as a mariner. you said his stats as a yankee were better, then listed his stats for his career. that means absolutely nothing. personally, i don't care what he did in seattle. [/ QUOTE ] Huskiez specifically asked about games whilst in Seattle, so I posted them. [/ QUOTE ] i know, but where are the numbers from new york that prove he's been better than jeter? [/ QUOTE ] Dude, if you want the numbers, you can look them up. I've posted career postseason numbers. You can look at regular season, you can look at Yankee postseason, you can look at anything you want. The bottom line is that Arod is a great player, and he is MUCH, MUCH better than Jeter. He always has been. If you try to argue something else, you just don't know what you are talking about. It is not my opinion that Arod is better than Jeter. It is a fact. I'm sorry if you don't like Arod. 
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#42
11-15-2005, 04:53 PM
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Re: A-Rod MVP
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Dude, if you want the numbers, you can look them up. I've posted career postseason numbers. You can look at regular season, you can look at Yankee postseason, you can look at anything you want. The bottom line is that Arod is a great player, and he is MUCH, MUCH better than Jeter. He always has been. If you try to argue something else, you just don't know what you are talking about. It is not my opinion that Arod is better than Jeter. It is a fact. I'm sorry if you don't like Arod. [/ QUOTE ] What are you talking about?? No one is disagreeing that ARod is better than Jeter. No one has even really disagreed with ARod being better than Jeter in the playoffs for their careers (though it is debatable). But the statement that you made saying that ARod has performed better in the postseason as a Yankee than Jeter has in the postseason as a Yankee is just flat out wrong.
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#43
11-15-2005, 05:01 PM
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Re: A-Rod MVP
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But the statement that you made saying that ARod has performed better in the postseason as a Yankee than Jeter has in the postseason as a Yankee is just flat out wrong. [/ QUOTE ] And not to beat a dead horse, but we were talking about why the NY media and some of their fans give A-Rod a hard time, and I really think that's it. Until A-Rod starts winning playoff games and series for the Yankees the way that it is perceived Jeter has, he's going to take a lot of crap.
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#44
11-15-2005, 05:06 PM
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Re: A-Rod MVP
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Dude, if you want the numbers, you can look them up. I've posted career postseason numbers. You can look at regular season, you can look at Yankee postseason, you can look at anything you want. The bottom line is that Arod is a great player, and he is MUCH, MUCH better than Jeter. He always has been. If you try to argue something else, you just don't know what you are talking about. It is not my opinion that Arod is better than Jeter. It is a fact. I'm sorry if you don't like Arod. [/ QUOTE ] not in the playoffs as a yankee, as you've apparently convinced yourself (math done in my head, so it's probably not perfect) Jeter (95-04) .306/.380/.863 jeter (2005) .333/.348/.967 arod (2004) .421/.476/1.213 (v. min) 19AB __________.258/.378/.894 (v. bos) 31AB arod (2005) .133/.435/.635 15AB something tells me those arod numbers will end up nearer the boston series than any of the other ones, which would be a tick lower than jeter's numbers (or at least not significantly higher) if you've got numbers that say differently, then please post them.
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#45
11-15-2005, 05:07 PM
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Re: A-Rod MVP
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[ QUOTE ] But the statement that you made saying that ARod has performed better in the postseason as a Yankee than Jeter has in the postseason as a Yankee is just flat out wrong. [/ QUOTE ] And not to beat a dead horse, but we were talking about why the NY media and some of their fans give A-Rod a hard time, and I really think that's it. Until A-Rod starts winning playoff games and series for the Yankees the way that it is perceived Jeter has, he's going to take a lot of crap. [/ QUOTE ] damnit i said this 20 posts ago [img]/images/graemlins/mad.gif[/img]
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#46
11-15-2005, 05:14 PM
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Re: A-Rod MVP
MLB.com has the numbers for 2005 incorporated. It would be time consuming to compute ARod's combined stats to compare.
Jeter (95-05) .307 / .378 / .841 ARod (04) .320 / .414 / 1.014 ARod (05) .133 / .435 / .635 Keep in mind these numbers don't do justice to the number of critical plays Jeter has made (shovel pass, 2001 WS game 4 walkoff HR). It appears our OPS numbers for Jeter differ for some reason, as yours would support > .863.
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#47
11-15-2005, 05:23 PM
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Re: A-Rod MVP
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MLB.com has the numbers for 2005 incorporated. It would be time consuming to compute ARod's combined stats to compare. Jeter (95-05) .307 / .378 / .841 ARod (04) .320 / .414 / 1.014 ARod (05) .133 / .435 / .635 Keep in mind these numbers don't do justice to the number of critical plays Jeter has made (shovel pass, 2001 WS game 4 walkoff HR). It appears our OPS numbers for Jeter differ for some reason, as yours would support > .863. [/ QUOTE ] i accidentally switched the numbers...it should be .836, not .863
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#48
11-15-2005, 05:49 PM
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Re: A-Rod MVP
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Keep in mind these numbers don't do justice to the number of critical plays Jeter has made (shovel pass, 2001 WS game 4 walkoff HR). [/ QUOTE ] i imagine yankee fans aren't thrilled with the fact that he's 0-8 w/ 2BB and 3K (1 run scored) in games where they face elimination. could that have something to do w/ his lack of popularity?
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#49
11-15-2005, 06:36 PM
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Re: A-Rod MVP
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[ QUOTE ] Dude, if you want the numbers, you can look them up. I've posted career postseason numbers. You can look at regular season, you can look at Yankee postseason, you can look at anything you want. The bottom line is that Arod is a great player, and he is MUCH, MUCH better than Jeter. He always has been. If you try to argue something else, you just don't know what you are talking about. It is not my opinion that Arod is better than Jeter. It is a fact. I'm sorry if you don't like Arod. [/ QUOTE ] What are you talking about?? No one is disagreeing that ARod is better than Jeter. No one has even really disagreed with ARod being better than Jeter in the playoffs for their careers (though it is debatable). But the statement that you made saying that ARod has performed better in the postseason as a Yankee than Jeter has in the postseason as a Yankee is just flat out wrong. [/ QUOTE ] 2004 ALDS Arod .421 .476 .737 Jeter .316 .350 .526 2004 ALCS Arod .258 .378 .516 Jeter .200 .333 .233 2005 ALDS Arod .133 .200 .435 Jeter .333 .619 .438 Arod 2-Jeter 1
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#50
11-15-2005, 06:54 PM
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Re: A-Rod MVP
Jeter went 4-19 in games 4-7 of the ALCS last year. I mean, let's face it, both Jeter and A-Rod have laid bombs in the playoffs.
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