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Old 04-01-2005, 04:35 AM
TheCleverOne TheCleverOne is offline
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I think 23% is this still too low.

My vpip in 10/20 and 15/30 short handed games is now about 40%.. but that offcourse includes some 2,3, and 4 handed play also.

I suspect(if there is way to check only 6 person games at PT tell me) my vpip in actually 6 handed games is little less 30%, about 29-28 and pfr% little over 20.
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Old 04-01-2005, 05:10 AM
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I suspect(if there is way to check only 6 person games at PT tell me) my vpip in actually 6 handed games is little less 30%, about 29-28 and pfr% little over 20.

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There's a filter somewhere, only games with between "x" anf "y" number of players. Change X to 6. I would be more specific, but no PockerTracker with me right now. Would be interested to hear your true stats.
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Old 04-01-2005, 06:29 AM
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As u can see from my post, I know the math.

I have a feeling that people now and then will experience bigger, or much bigger, swings then what their Standard deviation and long term winrate suggests. Most players that have played for a couple of years will have had dowswings of, lets say, 400BB when SD and winrate says something like 250BB should be max.

Dont u agree?
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Old 04-01-2005, 07:49 AM
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I'm not saying winrates like that don't happen, its just that their frequency is incredibly low. It would take 100 Bunky's playing 3BB/100 poker to break even over 25k hands, thats no consolation to the one that does though [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img].

The sample size obsession has gotten a bit much on 2+2, meaningful conclusions can be drawn from data--no matter the size.

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Old 04-01-2005, 08:10 AM
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Kiddo is much better than me in statistics but a 100 Bunky's playing 3BB/100 is way too many. I think almost all 3BB/100 players have had a break even stretch of 25K hands. And I'm sure they didn't play 2500K hands before that happened.

Sample size isn't an obsession. It's true that you can say some things even when somebody has a small sample size. But when we talk about winrate you need a lot more than 25K to be pretty sure about what the true winrate is.

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Old 04-01-2005, 08:11 AM
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wow. yeah your new image really got you a ton of action on that hand! i'm sure the guy would have played it the same with complete air as well as a set.
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Old 04-01-2005, 08:35 AM
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See why i like you paisan? Always keeping it real, see you soon. [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

Gregg
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Old 04-01-2005, 08:50 AM
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I think if one experiences much deeper swings than WR and SD would suggest the most probable explanation is psychology. If you get upset over losing 150+BB or whatever, and it affects your play, obviously the risk of bigger losses increases.
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Old 04-01-2005, 09:24 AM
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I dont think they played two and a half billion hands either..
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Old 04-01-2005, 09:25 AM
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Werent you always a LAG ?
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