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06-15-2005, 04:31 PM
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Re: QTs makes flush on non-pair board, calls river raise
One thing I forgot to add. When I'm in Villain's position on the river I wouldn't raise with the 7 or 8 high flush. I would go for the overcall which would also keep me from being reraised by the nut flush. If I have the nut flush then I hope to see the river capped.
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#12
06-15-2005, 04:32 PM
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Re: QTs makes flush on non-pair board, calls river raise
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One thing I forgot to add. When I'm in Villain's position on the river I wouldn't raise with the 7 or 8 high flush. I would go for the overcall which would also keep me from being reraised by the nut flush. If I have the nut flush then I hope to see the river capped. [/ QUOTE ] With only one more player behind you I think this is a mistake.
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#13
06-15-2005, 05:00 PM
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Re: QTs makes flush on non-pair board, calls river raise
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ] One thing I forgot to add. When I'm in Villain's position on the river I wouldn't raise with the 7 or 8 high flush. I would go for the overcall which would also keep me from being reraised by the nut flush. If I have the nut flush then I hope to see the river capped. [/ QUOTE ] With only one more player behind you I think this is a mistake. [/ QUOTE ] If I call and UTG folds I've lost 1BB (if I'm ahead). If UTG calls I break even. If I raise then UTG will most likely fold. If I raise and get reraised am I going to fold? I don't think you can at this level. So when I lose to the higher flush I lose TWO additional BB. You may say the odds of being over-flushed aren't that great but if you look how the hand played out then it wouldn't be unreasonable to suspect that Hero here also had a flush. If he does then most likely it's higher than our 7 high. So it comes down to I'm risking missing out on 1 BB in order to possibly save losing 3 BB. I think it's a good play so that's the way I play it. If I'm wrong then so be it.
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#14
06-16-2005, 09:33 PM
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Re: QTs makes flush on non-pair board, calls river raise
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You may say the odds of being over-flushed aren't that great but if you look how the hand played out then it wouldn't be unreasonable to suspect that Hero here also had a flush. If he does then most likely it's higher than our 7 high. [/ QUOTE ] What 7 high? We have a Q high flush.
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#15
06-16-2005, 09:50 PM
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Re: QTs makes flush on non-pair board, calls river raise
I bet the flop and call the river.
This is a classic flop bet that most people miss. I could swear that I knew of a good example like this in SSHE, but in my short perusing I couldn't find it. You'll just have to trust me. [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]
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#16
06-16-2005, 10:00 PM
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Re: QTs makes flush on non-pair board, calls river raise
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I could swear that I knew of a good example like this in SSHE, but in my short perusing I couldn't find it. You'll just have to trust me. [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img] [/ QUOTE ] It's in the overcards section.
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#17
06-16-2005, 10:05 PM
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Re: QTs makes flush on non-pair board, calls river raise
</font><blockquote><font class="small">En réponse à:</font><hr />
</font><blockquote><font class="small">En réponse à:</font><hr /> I could swear that I knew of a good example like this in SSHE, but in my short perusing I couldn't find it. You'll just have to trust me. [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img] [/ QUOTE ] It's in the overcards section. [/ QUOTE ] Awesome. Do you have a page number? This is really pissing me off.
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#18
06-16-2005, 10:12 PM
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Re: QTs makes flush on non-pair board, calls river raise
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Awesome. Do you have a page number? This is really pissing me off. [/ QUOTE ] Actually I lied. It's not in the overcards section It's the KJ example on page 139, in the evaluating drawing hands section. I think that this is the most similar example. Let me know if this what you were looking for.
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#19
06-17-2005, 12:36 AM
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Re: QTs makes flush on non-pair board, calls river raise
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I bet the flop and call the river. This is a classic flop bet that most people miss. I could swear that I knew of a good example like this in SSHE, but in my short perusing I couldn't find it. You'll just have to trust me. [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img] [/ QUOTE ] Are you possibly thinking of the one where we're holding T9 and the flop is A76? They recommend raising there to help clear your 10 and 9 outs.
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#20
06-17-2005, 01:54 AM
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Re: QTs makes flush on non-pair board, calls river raise
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ] I bet the flop and call the river. This is a classic flop bet that most people miss. I could swear that I knew of a good example like this in SSHE, but in my short perusing I couldn't find it. You'll just have to trust me. [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img] [/ QUOTE ] Are you possibly thinking of the one where we're holding T9 and the flop is A76? They recommend raising there to help clear your 10 and 9 outs. [/ QUOTE ] I'll repost this: t's the KJ example on page 139, in the evaluating drawing hands section. I think that this is the most similar example. Let me know if this what you were looking for.
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