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Old 12-20-2005, 01:18 AM
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Default Re: Agree or Disagree? Why?

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I agree. Mainly because I believe the bible to be a narrative work not a factual or scientific work. At best, I think the important "facts" in the bible are ethical or metaphysical ones and I dont think science has disproved any of these (nor would it try).


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This is more or less my sentiment.

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It helps to understand this forum to realise that the theist side is dominated by literal christians and the anti-theist side by evidentialists.

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Old 12-20-2005, 04:46 AM
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Not a single scientific discovery has ever disputed an important biblical fact.

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Hmm, I'm still trying to figure out what a "biblical fact" is. Is it something like:

- The Bible says "_____ is a fact", or
- The Bible says "_____", which happens to be a demonstratable fact?

Of course, it used to be considered "important" to believe in the Genesis account of creation, Noah's flood, Babel's tower, the exodus of Jews from Egypt, Joshua's sun, Solomon's "empire" ... Interestingly enough, these stop becoming "important" once science disputes them.

Oh, and as a Hydrologist I take issue with any claim that an observent Hebrew scholar noticing that rivers flow into an ocean that doesn't fill is somehow equivalent to describing the hydrological cycle. It's not.
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Old 12-20-2005, 08:05 AM
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Default Re: Agree or Disagree? Why?

The Old Testament advocates slavery.

While this is an opinion rather than a fact, is the OP suggesting that he doesn't have satisfactory proof that slavery is wrong?
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Old 12-20-2005, 11:19 AM
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While this is an opinion rather than a fact, is the OP suggesting that he doesn't have satisfactory proof that slavery is wrong?


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Come on now. Do you consider the occurence of slavery to be "an important Biblical fact" that is called into question by a scientific discovery?
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Old 12-20-2005, 11:35 AM
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No, as I said its an opinion, and I know not directly what was asked for, but the thought process is comparable:

The omnipotent word of God advocates slavery in the page of the bible just after the ten commandments. I think we all now agree slavery is wrong. So was God wrong? Or was the Bible wrong? Or are we all wrong now?

Either way something's wrong and the OP can't suggest the bible has never been shown to be wrong (unless we are all wrong now and we should in fact re-introduce hebrew slaves)
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