Cold cards?

[js13_tps]

How common is it not to get anything that resembles a starting hand from any poker book or online reference for an extended period of time?

Just curious. Even my TTH game says fold all the time. LOL

[illunious]

Depends,

I once sat at a 5/10 B&M game and didn't see a flop for 3 hours.

I play 8 tables online and it's rare that I don't see a flop within any 2 minute timespan.

I play $0.01/$0.02 in a NL home game and every starting hand resembles a starting hand.

[BaronVonCP]

Depends on your definition of extended period of time. Going through a couple hundred hands without anything to play is gonna happen sometime I guess. Not all that often though.

[cardcounter0]

It happens. Last weekend I was in a B&M $3/$6 game. There was a clock on the wall visible from the table. From 9:00PM to 2:00AM, I did nothing but post blinds and fold.
From 2:00AM to 3:00AM, I continued to fold, but might have actually seen a flop or two, and then folded. I was down over $300 without seeing a hand. When I left at 5:00AM, I was up a hundred or two, so it works both ways.

[PokerFoo]

Ive often wanted to ask this question myself. If you follow the starting hand strategies found in the low limit books youll play one 1 of every 12 hands in early position. Thats 1 hand for every 120 dealt. If you remain true to those strategies and fold to a raise and then a reraise in late position when marginal, you could sometimes not play for a long time.

I'd like to hear what experts have to say about playing that tight. Is this a contradiction in what would be concidered good play? Or is this an example of minimising losses and maximising wins over the long haul?

[js13_tps]

i realzie being a newbie to online poker, well, poker in general, and that the 2 new player mmt's on party are a very small sampling, but so far in 2 tournies I have gotten AK 3 times, TT & 88 once and thats the best 5 starting hands I've had.

Here is on I managed to win. I know I played it weak, but pls critique anyway.

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t20 (8 handed)

CO (t815)
Button (t235)
Hero (t2730)
BB (t2665)
UTG (t1320)
UTG+1 (t635)
MP1 (t1345)
MP2 (t2210)

Preflop: Hero is SB with T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
UTG folds, UTG+1 folds, MP1 calls t20, MP2 calls t20, CO calls t20, <font color="CC3333">Button raises to t130</font>, Hero calls t120, <font color="CC3333">BB raises to t240</font>, MP1 folds, MP2 folds, CO folds, Button calls t105 (All-In), Hero calls t110.

Flop: (t775) 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="blue">(3 players, 1 all-in)</font>
Hero checks, BB checks.

Turn: (t775) 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="blue">(3 players, 1 all-in)</font>
Hero checks, BB checks.

River: (t775) J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="blue">(3 players, 1 all-in)</font>
Hero checks, BB checks.

Final Pot: t775

I wanted a check raise on the flop and didn't get it, after that i was thinking he ay have had a straight draw possibly and was content with what i had.

[Rudbaeck]

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Ive often wanted to ask this question myself. If you follow the starting hand strategies found in the low limit books youll play one 1 of every 12 hands in early position. Thats 1 hand for every 120 dealt.

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I don't see how you get 1 in 12 to 1 in 120. I know Lee Jones says 1 in 12, but he lists 22 hands as playable under the gun. And I get 22/169 to be a bit more than 1 in 8.

And for most games he is a wee bit too tight in early position. I open on 14.85% of all hands dealt to me UTG, and Astroglide opens on 16.28% of all hands. (He is probably the best combination of a great player and great database on these forums. Over 100,000 hands of 3/6.)

But there are times when I don't get anything playable even on the button for many orbits, and there are those times I get to raise pf for 6 straight hands. It evens out in the long run.

I find it pretty rare that it's 3 bets back to me, unless several players have very loose raising standards, in which case I don't release most of the hands I opened with anyways. Yes, it happens in tight games, but then you can merrily fold any marginal holding.

[ras]

been having that problem for past week. being dealt non-playable hole cards, and when dealt playable ones, get out drawn. stratedgy seems pointless unless you have the nuts. people call to the end, often with terrible hole cards.

[ras]

isn't that a boring way to spend your time? saw some guy reading a book at a b&amp;m game also. seems awfully strange way to spend one's time having "fun."

[cardcounter0]

yeah, winning money night after night is getting to be a real drag, but I'm learning to adjust to it.
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