Changes that Need to be Made in No Limit

[BZ_Zorro]

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My opinion is that you should do everything other way around than your advice.

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Maybe I'm paranoid but that makes me wonder...is mid-high playing a ZeeJustin style prank on us lowly SSNLers?

Ignoring all the justifications/text/disclaimers, this is what the list reads:

Changes that Need to be Made in No Limit ??

1. Don't draw to flushes.
2. Don't raise AK preflop
3. Aces or Kings are not an all in hand post flop.
4. Don't bother going all in unless huge pot.
5. Don't call a raise from a good player with top pair.
6. Slowplay more.
7. Don't reraise all in with pocket Kings someone who has threebet you preflop.

If this isn't a prank, it ought to be. [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img] [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

[poboy]

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Oh, come on. Why is the advice on this forum always dead set against slowplaying? Leading with a set rarely works. If someone leads into me on a A94 2-flush flop and I have AK as the raiser, I'm certainly not raising. I'm calling him down unless I have a read that he's bad. I'm probably not raising with anything there.


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And against a good solid player like yourself there is certainly a better line to take. Against your average donk leading out will often get all the money in when he has an overpair or TPTK. The reason why slowplaying is not preferred around here is because there are very few players like yourself. JMO

[jkkkk]

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Changes that Need to be Made in No Limit ??

1. Don't draw to flushes.
2. Don't raise AK preflop
3. Aces or Kings are not an all in hand post flop.
4. Don't bother going all in unless huge pot.
5. Don't call a raise from a good player with top pair.
6. Slowplay more.
7. Don't reraise all in with pocket Kings someone who has threebet you preflop.

If this isn't a prank, it ought to be.

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haha the thought had crossed my mind.

[Burt Reynolds]

I agree with some of them.

To the guy who said bet your flush draws. I do and I still don't get paid off. Fish don't care what you did on the flop, they just know 3 hearts on the board and they aren't calling big bets.

[edge]

It's all a balance. If your opponents are going to check/fold whenever a third flush card hits, bluff it as much as you can get away with. Your cards don't mean a thing unless you go to a showdown.

[MarzH05]

1. Dont check/call out of position on just a flush draw.
2. If you dont raise with AK, then I guess your only raising hands are high pocket pairs. Please come play with me.
3. Purely situational.
4. A pure all in without a raise before maybe. But what if you have a really strong draw and there was a raise before you. Surely you dont suggest just calling or folding. If you go all in on huge draws, and with the nuts when it warrants it you will be a much tougher opponent.
5. I can see this one working
6. If you play as weak/tight as your suggestions say, then yes you should slow play. If you bet your hands and are aggressive, you will get action. Trust me.
7. I dont know why you would rr all in unless it warrants it. However, you should rr depending on position and the player. I dont consider what you listed a rule becase it goes without saying.

*Dont take this the wrong way, but I would really consider someone who plays like this weak/tight. This would make them very easy to play against. I would be extremely aggressive against a player like you, and tight aggressive against the normal crazy player on party poker, thus maximizing my earnings. Your method may work solely against nonobservant opponents, but trust me, you will not win as much as you should be. I think the main objection with your suggestions lies in what playing style will maximize your winnings online. You suggest a tight passive approach, but I think most of the posters suggest a tight aggressive approach.

[fimbulwinter]

WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

*bang*

well, there my head goes exploding.

please, nobody take any of the above advice. unless you're sitting at my table.

fim

[fimbulwinter]

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this thread sucks, lets let it die.

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we keep killing it and it keeps coming back (Tek, Richie Rich, redpill etc.)

holy water, stakes and silver bullets perhaps?

fim

[captZEEbo1]

Why wouldn't you raise AK preflop? What hands are you raising? You don't need to get paid off for a whole 100 BB stack to make it a profitable raise. Furthermore, you should be able to get away from TPTK in deepstack poker if you suspect something is up.

[In Paradise]

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7. Don't reraise all in with pocket Kings someone who has threebet you preflop.[ QUOTE ]


On this one, you are just dead wrong. Kings = Aces preflop as far as I'm concerned. You will be up against Aces about 1/20 times when you're holding Kings at a full table. If you lose a 100BB stack on this one, you need to make an extra 5BB every other time you're holding Kings. This is not hard.


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But when someone moves all in preflop, do you think to yourself, there is a 95% chance that he does not have AA? Or do you estimate the odds that this is one of those times where you were cold decked and he has it. I have folded KK only once in my life preflop. But when I have KK and get raised all in preflop I sure as heck don't consider it 19 to 1 that he doesn't have Aces.