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Old 11-12-2004, 01:13 PM
Lmn55d Lmn55d is offline
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Default Is this a textbook SSH play?

On the turn, I felt the pairing of the jack reduced my outs significantly if I was behind, so I folded.

Party Poker 2/4 Hold'em (8 handed)

Preflop: Hero is BB with K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
<font color="666666">1 fold</font>, UTG+1 calls, <font color="666666">1 fold</font>, MP2 calls, <font color="CC3333">CO raises</font>, <font color="666666">1 fold</font>, SB calls, Hero calls, UTG+1 calls, MP2 calls.

Flop: (10 SB) 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="blue">(5 players)</font>
SB checks, Hero checks, UTG+1 checks, MP2 checks, <font color="CC3333">CO bets</font>, SB folds, <font color="CC3333">Hero raises</font>, UTG+1 folds, MP2 calls, <font color="CC3333">CO 3-bets</font>, Hero calls, MP2 calls.

Turn: (9.50 BB) J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="blue">(3 players)</font>
Hero checks, MP2 checks, <font color="CC3333">CO bets</font>, Hero folds, MP2 folds.

Final Pot: 10.50 BB
<font color="green">Main Pot: 9.50 BB, won by CO.</font>
<font color="green">Pot 2: 1 BB, returned to CO.</font>
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Old 11-12-2004, 01:16 PM
sthief09 sthief09 is offline
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Default Re: Is this a textbook SSH play?

fold preflop... your flop c/r is good and I think your turn fold is good too, since you lost your 2 pair outs vs. AA
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Old 11-12-2004, 01:22 PM
Lmn55d Lmn55d is offline
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Default Re: Is this a textbook SSH play?

hmm, I was pretty sure this is a standard preflop call. Even SSH says it is.
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Old 11-12-2004, 01:27 PM
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Default Re: Is this a textbook SSH play?

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hmm, I was pretty sure this is a standard preflop call. Even SSH says it is.

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I didn't see it was 5 handed. I still don't much like it. I've tried to start making these calls from the blinds and it always gets me in trouble. obviously take his word over mine, but I'm gonna continue to hate calling with easily dominated hands from the blinds.
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Old 11-12-2004, 01:28 PM
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Default Re: Is this a textbook SSH play?

I think the preflop call is fine for one bet and I agree the turn fold is good.
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Old 11-12-2004, 01:50 PM
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Default Re: Is this a textbook SSH play?

Yeah, I wish I played with such savy! [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img] I think your preflop call was absolutely correct with so much action.
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Old 11-12-2004, 02:01 PM
Sarge85 Sarge85 is offline
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Default Re: Is this a textbook SSH play?

I play it the same.

Though I'm probaly with sthief, and may or may not call the PF raise. - as you did, I think the Flop CR is absolutely correct here.

Sarge[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
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Old 11-12-2004, 02:30 PM
-Spike- -Spike- is offline
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Default Re: Is this a textbook SSH play?

Preflop, K9s in the BB against as raise is a call.

The flop CR is ok. You only have 2nd pair with a good kicker and a backdoor flush draw. When the CO 3bet it, you knew you were way behind. Probably pair of As, Qs or AJs.

But what you don't say is anything about the CO's playing style. Is he a LAG, or tight?

If he was LAG, the CR on flop was fine, if he was tight, I would have folded the flop.
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Old 11-12-2004, 02:46 PM
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Default Re: Is this a textbook SSH play?

Easy preflop call. I'd call with almost any two suited out of the BB against a field of 5. You've got flush options, not to mention reverse dominating your opponents' AK.

You are obviously behind, but so what? You're looking at a huge pot for a measely bet. You'll outflop everyone enough times to make this a good call.
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Old 11-12-2004, 05:48 PM
Ed Miller Ed Miller is offline
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Default Re: Is this a textbook SSH play?

If he was LAG, the CR on flop was fine, if he was tight, I would have folded the flop.

Folding on the flop is clearly wrong. You are getting 11-to-1... more than enough even if you are certain that you are behind and drawing. The flop check-raise is definitely the correct play.
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