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Old 08-20-2005, 06:08 PM
Scuba Chuck Scuba Chuck is offline
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Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t50 (6 handed) converter

BB (t1650)
UTG (t890)
MP (t2190)
CO (t1860)
Button (t645)
Hero (t765)

Preflop: Hero is SB with A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, CO calls t50, Button calls t50, Hero completes, BB checks.

Flop: (t200) 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
Hero checks, BB checks, CO checks, Button checks.

Turn: (t200) 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
Hero checks, BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">CO bets t100</font>, Button folds, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to t300</font>...
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Old 08-20-2005, 06:13 PM
Newt_Buggs Newt_Buggs is offline
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Default Re: Imaginative or Insane? ($33)

why are you raising it to 300 instead of pushing? I would probably push.
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Old 08-20-2005, 06:20 PM
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why are you raising it to 300 instead of pushing? I would probably push.

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That's a good dilemma. I thought a raise to 300 made it "look" more like I wanted a call (which I don't of course).
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Old 08-20-2005, 06:22 PM
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Not insane, so I'll go with imaginative. Your opponent doesn't have to be Phil Ivey to think a push means a draw and your raise means a made hand. It depends on the player. If he lives to call, then I would think a push would be much better.

Edit: Change lives to likes. I mean if you think he can't resist the 200 call because he has a big stack.

I think a fold is good against some opponents too.
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Old 08-20-2005, 06:25 PM
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iNsAnE
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Old 08-20-2005, 06:29 PM
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What is your plan if you get called and miss the river?
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Old 08-20-2005, 06:30 PM
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Not insane, so I'll go with imaginative. Your opponent doesn't have to be Phil Ivey to think a push means a draw and your raise means a made hand. It depends on the player. If he lives to call, then I would think a push would be much better.

Edit: Change lives to likes. I mean if you think he can't resist the 200 call because he has a big stack.

I think a fold is good against some opponents too.

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Against a bigstack, I guess those are my thoughts more. That a push "smells."
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Old 08-20-2005, 06:32 PM
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What is your plan if you get called and miss the river?

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Can I wish for an ace?

Anyway, assuming I hit a blank, I'm likely check-folding. I can't remember my 'feeling' at the time. Perhaps his mini-bet/call would suggest a flush draw. If I felt that he whiffed, I might put my life on the line here. It's too difficult to know what read I would attain by a call.

Another thought/question I haven't thought through. What do I do if villain pushes on me?
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Old 08-20-2005, 06:50 PM
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Another thought/question I haven't thought through. What do I do if villain pushes on me?

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Well, if you fold you are crippled and you don't have odds to call w/an 8 outer. So maybe it would be better to give yourself odds by making it 350, increasing fold equity a touch and not putting yourself in the difficult spot of having to fold with so few chips left. Plus your A outs may be good.

The way you played it, against a lot of opponents (basically ones who chase flush draws a lot) on a blank river it's probably best to push. One advantage of not having the A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] here.
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Old 08-20-2005, 08:54 PM
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why are you raising it to 300 instead of pushing? I would probably push.

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That's a good dilemma. I thought a raise to 300 made it "look" more like I wanted a call (which I don't of course).

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Exactly why it's a good play, which should work...so long as no one has top pair or a draw. Likey.
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