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Old 10-08-2005, 08:16 PM
The4Aces The4Aces is offline
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Default how can we short empire poker?

My guess is the stock will go down soon, but i dont now how to do it.
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Old 10-08-2005, 09:51 PM
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Default Re: how can we short empire poker?

Is Empire even a publicly traded company?
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Old 10-08-2005, 10:11 PM
The4Aces The4Aces is offline
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Default Re: how can we short empire poker?

yes. i dont know the symbol though
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Old 10-08-2005, 11:54 PM
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Default Re: how can we short empire poker?

Party and Empire both trade on the London Stock Exchange...
Party = PRTY
Empire = EOL

To pull up quotes on yahoo finance, add .L to the end of the symbols.
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Old 10-10-2005, 09:17 AM
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Default Re: how can we short empire poker?

Empire is down over 30% since friday. Party is down too, but has been steadily declining for a week
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Old 10-10-2005, 01:17 PM
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Default Re: how can we short empire poker?

it's too late to trade based on the news you heard. price has already been taken into account.
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Old 10-10-2005, 01:36 PM
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Default Re: how can we short empire poker?

It's always that way...unless insider trading.
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Old 10-10-2005, 03:32 PM
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Default Re: how can we short empire poker?

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It's always that way...unless insider trading.

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It was most certainly not too late to short Empire at the open this morning.
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Old 10-10-2005, 04:03 PM
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it's too late to trade based on the news you heard. price has already been taken into account.

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No way... Empire will be traded below 100p until Wednesday and under 10 (yes "10") before April 30, 2006.
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Old 10-10-2005, 04:30 PM
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ROUNDUP Empire Online shares slammed by worries over PartyGaming relationship
10.10.2005 14:07:52, AFX Europe Focus

-- by Rob Branch --
LONDON (AFX) - Empire Online Ltd posted a strong rise in third-quarter
revenues and profit but shares plunged 28 pct as investors fretted over the
internet-based gaming group's relationship with its key customer.
Empire shares sank 51.5 pence to 131.5 by 12.35 pm, valuing the company at
around 385 mln stg. The collapse saw other shares in the sector slammed as more
optimistic industry growth forecasts were once again called into question.
The slide came after PartyGaming PLC, owner of the world's biggest online
poker site and Empire's biggest customer, said it had moved its PartyPoker.com
brand and all of its players to a newly integrated operating platform.
The decision, which had previously been flagged, marks an attempt by
PartyGaming to reduce its reliance on the likes of Empire for the generation of
new custom.
Seymour Pierce analyst Paul Leyland said while it was by no means
unexpected, investors, who remain extremely jittery following PartyGaming's
September 6 warning, had been "spooked" by the announcement.
"I think the slide is overdone as they have got sufficient resources to
ensure decent tournaments, decent prizes and full tables. The key is that they
have got to build up their own platforms faster than Party can mess up their
'skins' revenues," Leyland said.
Empire reported third-quarter net gaming revenues up 71 pct year-on-year to
31.4 mln usd, while net operating profit increased 43 pct to 16.1 mln usd.
The increase was driven by a sharp rise in the number of people playing
poker and other casino-style games, 53,148 having actively played for money in
the period, up 62 pct on the same period a year ago and 24 pct over the quarter.
Spokesman Andrew Burnett said Empire was seeing no evidence of an
industry-wide slowdown, in marked contrast to cautious projections from
PartyGaming.
"We are seeing good growth in the industry. We are not seeing any sign that
growth is tailing off," he told AFX News.
Chief executive Noam Lanir said in a statement that Empire was determined to
pursue industry-consolidating opportunities as they arose following the recent
successful acquisition of casino and poker brands Club Dice and Noble Poker.
Designed to cut its reliance on income streams from PartyGaming and fellow
client 888 Holdings PLC, Burnett said he was "astonished" by how well the
businesses had performed.
Empire stock has lost 52 pct of its value since PartyGaming's alert, in
tandem with sector peers.
Investors were dealt another blow earlier this month when rival online
gaming group Sportingbet PLC scrapped plans to launch a 791 mln stg bid for
Empire.
Among other shares in the sector, PartyGaming fell 8 pct to a new low of
73.75 pence, while Sportingbet and 888 Holdings declined 4 pct and 8 pct
respectively.
rob.branch@afxnews.com
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So an effin Party/CON affiliate is valued at 385 MILLION STERLING even after Party ("main client" LOL) kicked them...

Nice Hand
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