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Re: Quads obv
To me it seems like you let him off real easy, you tell him you have quads here with that bet. I would value bet the river around 400-600 depending on the player
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Re: Quads obv
If he has an 8, pushing is great. He obviously doesn't fold it.
I would be very surprised if he has an 8 though. I would bet around $450. I'd say whatever you bet here it's pretty obvious you are full so I'd go small and try and eke value from his overpair. |
#3
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Re: Quads obv
if he thinks you are good and capable of making moves i like a turn raise representing an 8 because most good players in your spot will not have an 8 here and he knows that. call, call, river push on drawless board looks a tad strong.
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Re: Quads obv
I think flop raise, turn push is probably the best way to get money in there.
He will be salivating to get his money in on that flop with a big pair. Very hard for him to put u on a monster on that flop. If he calls your flop raise, and you push turn, it still is difficult to put you on a big hand because its unlikely you would raise that flop with an 8. |
#5
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Re: Quads obv
I think the flop raise is only good in retrospect. I think calling twice is pretty good, maybe a raise on the turn like lap said. I don't think villain has an 8 here very often, but has an overpair very often. I'm torn, but I'm in the value bet camp on this one just because of how the betting went. I don't think a big pair looks up often enough to make the overbet profitable against it.
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Re: Quads obv
Just because he has flopped a monster doesnt mean he has to slowplay it,
It is extremely difficult to put him on a big hand on such a flop. Villain doesnt put hero on a 2, and raising with an 8 there is not very sound. This is a dream flop for 22 and not one where you need to slowplay to get money in. You tell me what do you do with AA or KK on this flop? You go broke right...thats why i think raising it is the best option. Edit: I also think pushing flop is a good way to get money in...a big pair doesnt fold to a flop push. |
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Re: Quads obv
Maybe I do like a flop raise then. I just think raising the flop is shutting down 99-QQ and you can pick up a lot of value by bringing them to the turn.
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Re: Quads obv
[ QUOTE ]
If he has an 8, pushing is great. He obviously doesn't fold it. I would be very surprised if he has an 8 though. I would bet around $450. I'd say whatever you bet here it's pretty obvious you are full so I'd go small and try and eke value from his overpair. [/ QUOTE ] This is the only thing that meaks sense to me. Why put him to the test with a huge over bet? I'd be a happy with a call for the minimum he'd call with. |
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Re: Quads obv
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To me it seems like you let him off real easy, you tell him you have quads here with that bet. I would value bet the river around 400-600 depending on the player [/ QUOTE ] So you lay down an 8 on an 88622 board every time somebody pushes? Good to know. |
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